bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
To be contrarian, you could argue that city routinely plays players out of their best position rather than bringing in a specialist - right back for them for years being a classic case
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To be contrarian, you could argue that city routinely plays players out of their best position rather than bringing in a specialist - right back for them for years being a classic case
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
1: In not sure how its contrarian to highlight Juventus and Flamengo as teams that play "tippy tappy" football and have still seen Alcaraz' quality.
They signed him and then their play didnt align with Alcaraz' penchant for excellence on the quick transition, a way that neither of those teams play as Douglas Luiz has also found at Juventus.
2: Ive never once said that Moyes is negotiating for players. Its clear hes the one putting names forward.
Which other buffoon is seeking to strengthen the strongest areas of the team rather than the weaker positions?
Can you imagine leading a team and upgrading your strongest 2 teammates before swapping out your weakest 2? Its illogical isnt it?
I firmly believe hes given unrealistic names to the other 2 chaps. When one of those names is John McGinn it seems quite clear that hes calling the shots on his 2 year contract.
3: Perhaps you could point to where you first thought KDH would be an upgrade on Alcaraz in the 10 position?
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Hes played 23 games there and scored 5 goals.
4 were at Chelsea where he scored 1 goal
16 were for Leicester in the championship where he scored 4 goals.
He's a left sided central midfielder. The same position as Gana.
Is he currently better than Alcaraz as a 10? Absolutely no chance.
Is he better than Gana as a left sided 8? Absolutely no chance.
Happy to dispute both points.
You could, but that would be 1 position on one side and not both RB & RW.
I think that is "unprecedented".
Perhaps we'll see Moyes praised in future for creating his own system where we dont use a right hand side
Wouldnt that be something...
I remember you mentioning Kvaratskhelia before he moved to Napoli.
£15mil we could have had him for. There are players out there, even the chap who went to Napoli and then Bayern, Kim Min Jae who we were linked with.
Sliding doors moments. There will be, and im sure there are similar players we could have brought in this window.
But i dont believe they are being put forward by Moyes and i dont believe the work has been done.
Mr Happy
Player Valuation: £35m
Jesus. That sleep definitely rejuvenated you !!1: In not sure how its contrarian to highlight Juventus and Flamengo as teams that play "tippy tappy" football and have still seen Alcaraz' quality.
They signed him and then their play didnt align with Alcaraz' penchant for excellence on the quick transition, a way that neither of those teams play as Douglas Luiz has also found at Juventus.
2: Ive never once said that Moyes is negotiating for players. Its clear hes the one putting names forward.
Which other buffoon is seeking to strengthen the strongest areas of the team rather than the weaker positions?
Can you imagine leading a team and upgrading your strongest 2 teammates before swapping out your weakest 2? Its illogical isnt it?
I firmly believe hes given unrealistic names to the other 2 chaps. When one of those names is John McGinn it seems quite clear that hes calling the shots on his 2 year contract.
3: Perhaps you could point to where you first thought KDH would be an upgrade on Alcaraz in the 10 position?
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall - Detailed stats
These are the detailed performance data of FC Everton player Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall. The website contains a statistic about the performance data of the player.www.transfermarkt.com
Hes played 23 games there and scored 5 goals.
4 were at Chelsea where he scored 1 goal
16 were for Leicester in the championship where he scored 4 goals.
He's a left sided central midfielder. The same position as Gana.
Is he currently better than Alcaraz as a 10? Absolutely no chance.
Is he better than Gana as a left sided 8? Absolutely no chance.
Happy to dispute both points.
You could, but that would be 1 position on one side and not both RB & RW.
I think that is "unprecedented".
Perhaps we'll see Moyes praised in future for creating his own system where we dont use a right hand side
Wouldnt that be something...
I remember you mentioning Kvaratskhelia before he moved to Napoli.
£15mil we could have had him for. There are players out there, even the chap who went to Napoli and then Bayern, Kim Min Jae who we were linked with.
Sliding doors moments. There will be, and im sure there are similar players we could have brought in this window.
But i dont believe they are being put forward by Moyes and i dont believe the work has been done.
1: In not sure how its contrarian to highlight Juventus and Flamengo as teams that play "tippy tappy" football and have still seen Alcaraz' quality.
They signed him and then their play didnt align with Alcaraz' penchant for excellence on the quick transition, a way that neither of those teams play as Douglas Luiz has also found at Juventus.
2: Ive never once said that Moyes is negotiating for players. Its clear hes the one putting names forward.
Which other buffoon is seeking to strengthen the strongest areas of the team rather than the weaker positions?
Can you imagine leading a team and upgrading your strongest 2 teammates before swapping out your weakest 2? Its illogical isnt it?
I firmly believe hes given unrealistic names to the other 2 chaps. When one of those names is John McGinn it seems quite clear that hes calling the shots on his 2 year contract.
3: Perhaps you could point to where you first thought KDH would be an upgrade on Alcaraz in the 10 position?
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall - Detailed stats
These are the detailed performance data of FC Everton player Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall. The website contains a statistic about the performance data of the player.
Hes played 23 games there and scored 5 goals.
4 were at Chelsea where he scored 1 goal
16 were for Leicester in the championship where he scored 4 goals.
He's a left sided central midfielder. The same position as Gana.
Is he currently better than Alcaraz as a 10? Absolutely no chance.
Is he better than Gana as a left sided 8? Absolutely no chance.
Happy to dispute both points.
You could, but that would be 1 position on one side and not both RB & RW.
I think that is "unprecedented".
Perhaps we'll see Moyes praised in future for creating his own system where we dont use a right hand side
Wouldnt that be something...
I remember you mentioning Kvaratskhelia before he moved to Napoli.
£15mil we could have had him for. There are players out there, even the chap who went to Napoli and then Bayern, Kim Min Jae who we were linked with.
Sliding doors moments. There will be, and im sure there are similar players we could have brought in this window.
But i dont believe they are being put forward by Moyes and i dont believe the work has been done.
….you have this thing against Moyes, maybe because we know how desperate you were for us to get Potter;
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bigmountainfudgecake
Player Valuation: £100k
Forest in for Rico Lewis who can play full back and wing, why aren't we all over that?
McCallsVolley
Player Valuation: £500k
Bluebonic
Player Valuation: £40m
Anubody esle read those “go get Potter”, “we needPotter”, “time for Potter” statements in Dobby the house elf’s voice? No, just me than, ahh well, back on the meds I go!
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
The Sherlocks at The Echo couldn't find out who any of these alternatives are it seems.
raiseyoureyebrow4thewin!
Player Valuation: £1m
played well to put himself in the shop window with the assist. guardiola has already said the squad is too big
hudson odoi elanga mcatee - how do forest keep signing young good talent for lowish fees
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Seen the narrative starting to emerge of if we pay what said ts want for Dibling then that could mean we don't strengthen at RB or CM - so is it wiser to drop down to a lower more affordable target, Boyland suggested this yesterday as one idea.
Thing is though - whose to say we do that and don't get the other ones in anyways.
False economy, you choose your target and unless they aren't attainable - then you should go get them, even if you have to pay more than you'd like to do. Dibling is obviously valued by the club as a player who can go to be worth 100m etc so it's the club now thinking about a lower future profit making them hesitate.
TFG and more importantly the recruitment team put together by them which are under the spotlight right now. Forest and Sunderland business are casting a light on our apparent unprecedented summer and as it stands we've added a few decent t signings with potential a solid player in KDH and a high profile lauded loan deal - but end of the day it's a loan and in twelve months he's gone - so hard to include him in the view of have we rebuilt to the degree needed.
If Barry ends up our big transfer - one surpassed by around 4-5 signings from forest then ultimately we have sold a lie about the degree of rebuild. And it seems more like a typical Everton type summer.
If we do not get a genuinely good right winger in then they've dropped the ball big time, maybe hiring a guy known for being a hard nose haggler over pennies as the head of recruitment isn't the smartest idea in the current climate of football deals.
But at least he can say he never wasted any money on overpriced deals, be sure he won't have made them.
Mr Happy
Player Valuation: £35m
Was thinking Brian Potter
The angst on here about things that cannot be controlled by an opinion.
The club decide these things, our only role is to support the muppets who turn out each week and hope for a win.
No amount of heartfelt ranting or whinging will change that.
The club will buy who they think will meet the needs of the playing staff. We have 3000+ pages telling them what to do - guess what - it made no difference at all and neither should it.
I thought I had Everton bad, until I read what is written on here.
The club decide these things, our only role is to support the muppets who turn out each week and hope for a win.
No amount of heartfelt ranting or whinging will change that.
The club will buy who they think will meet the needs of the playing staff. We have 3000+ pages telling them what to do - guess what - it made no difference at all and neither should it.
I thought I had Everton bad, until I read what is written on here.
Of course we’d still need players, that’s clearly not the point I’m making here.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
To put it into context - Sunderland this summer have signed Diarra 25m, Adingra - 20m, Xhaka - free, Sadiki - 14m, and Alderete -8m.
All of those would be squad players minimum and upgrades over our bench - several of them would be starters and better than what we have.
That's good recruitment and for Sunderland yes maybe they overpaid on Diarra to get him in quickly and maybe overpaid Xhaka in wages to get him over the line.
Recruitment is about knowing your level and buying at the top of that, seems like we have either over estimated our pull and wasted time and effort on players really had no interest, or if we don't get Dibling then again we've tried too high a level in money we are willing to spend.
Both are signs of very bad recruitment
All of those would be squad players minimum and upgrades over our bench - several of them would be starters and better than what we have.
That's good recruitment and for Sunderland yes maybe they overpaid on Diarra to get him in quickly and maybe overpaid Xhaka in wages to get him over the line.
Recruitment is about knowing your level and buying at the top of that, seems like we have either over estimated our pull and wasted time and effort on players really had no interest, or if we don't get Dibling then again we've tried too high a level in money we are willing to spend.
Both are signs of very bad recruitment
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