Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[Curtis]

In many previous years I understood the piping down of overly negative posters

Even now if somebody is clearly just on the windup, I understand the piping down and the pile on

However given the period we have just come out of, added to the general history of the clubs management under the last two regimes, I really don't understand the reaction to people being currently pessimistic, negative and assuming the worst.

Can you let Everton actually prove they know what they are doing now, instead of belittling peoples concerns with talk of "we will do this" or "let's see when the window closes". It should be acknowledged equally that maybe they won't do what you expect, and maybe it won't be a great situation come Sep 1st. I mean we all have recent experience of the club doing a lot of things wrong, so who the hell knows if these new guys will continue that pattern in some areas.

The club's been a joke for ages. The new owners are only in the door so who the hell knows how they'll turn out, and our last experience with promising new ownership turned to scheisse. Just because some of you want to be optimistic and don't seem to want negativity around at all, shouldn't mean you can't sympathise that many of the fans won't get to that place until they see good things actually happening consistently.

And I say this as somebody who is very indifferent to it all still. I'm excited to see that opening game at the new stadium, and get over for a game, but the rest of it I'm too burnt by the last few seasons to be turned around by a Moyes-led new era. I'll wait and see.

For me with the image I have of the club coming out of the last 5 years, I think the norm should be pessimism, mistrust and negativity tbh. Fair play to those who are deciding to set themselves up again by seeing the good in almost everything.

Hey there's nothing wrong with being wary or guarded about your club when past regimes have made a travesty of transfer windows and exploited fans' faith in the club I get the cynicism. Hey I'm frustrated by the lack of signing myself but I've also noticed some positives contrasting from the previous imbeciles. I think where it becomes tedious and insufferable when people become hyperbolic and start making grandiose claims like this is a disgrace , the worst transfer window ever even when it hasn't finished. Hey if we don't sign the players at the end of the window I think that's a fair criticism and even not having the gaps filled by the first game another valid criticism. But once again it's people who just post the most miserable stuff 50 times a day with the content just being replicated with nothing new to say is when I have a gripe. But one way or another I hope what needs sorted gets rectified and we can just come together in civil discourse while supporting a club we both love.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Is it not the case that a reasonable person’s opinion would be influenced by what is done, rather than what is said ?

The reality is what we've 'done' is signed some good players with a clear desire to sign more in the 3+ weeks that's remaining of this transfer window..

My personal belief is that the level of negativity being projected by some is unfounded at best and unproductive at worst. What's honestly the point if you're just going to moan every July when we havent magically conjured up 6 or 7 ballers who walk into Finch Farm on day one?

 

[bicycleheader]

Hey there's nothing wrong with being wary or guarded about your club when past regimes have made a travesty of transfer windows and exploited fans' faith in the club I get the cynicism. Hey I'm frustrated by the lack of signing myself but I've also noticed some positives contrasting from the previous imbeciles. I think where it becomes tedious and insufferable when people become hyperbolic and start making grandiose claims like this is a disgrace , the worst transfer window ever even when it hasn't finished. Hey if we don't sign the players at the end of the window I think that's a fair criticism and even not having the gaps filled by the first game another valid criticism. But once again it's people who just post the most miserable stuff 50 times a day with the content just being replicated with nothing new to say is when I have a gripe. But one way or another I hope what needs sorted gets rectified and we can just come together in civil discourse while supporting a club we both love.

I would've made fun of the hyperbole and talks of a disgrace in the past

Right now, nah. Let the proof come first.

And as others are saying the positive posts stating stuff as assumed will happen without any proof are very very grating to be honest. My thought is always, have you not Evertoned?

Ideally people just discuss what they want and stop the tedious berating of the others positive or negative stance. I think both can be valid, and both are prone to hyperbole and stating opinion and assumption as fact

 

[bicycleheader]

The reality is what we've 'done' is signed some good players with a clear desire to sign more in the 3+ weeks that's remaining of this transfer window..

My personal belief is that the level of negativity being projected by some is unfounded at best and unproductive at worst. What's honestly the point if you're just going to moan every July when we havent magically conjured up 6 or 7 ballers who walk into Finch Farm on day one?

I honestly feel your posts seem to incredibly miss any context of what this club has been for the last few years. If you were posting this stuff say when Martinez, Koeman or Silva joined I could probably understand but for god sake have you not seen the levels of incompetence that the club is capable of?

 

[Toffe3m4n]

It is only as tedious as someone constantly trying to state that everything is hunky dory and that we are better off than at time X over and over again. Which is your whole schtick. You are constantly berating people for not being over the moon about our current situation and also overstate how great everything is to the point of tedium, so maybe have a look inward before getting snippy with others.

Just so I don't get a warning for engaging with your nonsense I will state that I hope we sign Dibling soon.

Literally none of this applies to me?

All I've suggested is to keep heads attached to necks and not completely jump the shark with opinions and emotions on a summer transfer window that was always going to run right down to the wire. Figure that's just a sensible view no matter how you look at it

Crack on with whatever you want to post on the matter - tis a forum after all and I of course can't/won't stop anyone. Merely just trying to provide some much needed perspective, as many others also are!

Anyway

 

[windymiller]

Literally none of this applies to me?

All I've suggested is to keep heads attached to necks and not completely jump the shark with opinions and emotions on a summer transfer window that was always going to run right down to the wire. Figure that's just a sensible view no matter how you look at it

Crack on with whatever you want to post on the matter - tis a forum after all and I of course can't/won't stop anyone. Merely just trying to provide some much needed perspective, as many others also are!

Anyway

Self awareness is a rare trait. Don't be sad that you don't have it.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

I honestly feel your posts seem to incredibly miss any context of what this club has been for the last few years. If you were posting this stuff say when Martinez, Koeman or Silva joined I could probably understand but for god sake have you not seen the levels of incompetence that the club is capable of?

Im literally just willing to give the new owners at least a bit of time to implement their vision for the club before I start calling them for all kinds 5 minutes in..

If you can't even attempt that much, indeed given all of the negativity that has already consumed the club over the last few years as you say.. then honestly when can you?

Again - be arsed just heading to every new season with a negative mindset right from the off. That's not how you should be following a football team.. or a team in any sport for that matter.

 

[Caolam]

Can anyone conceive of a Everton team going into the Leeds game with Dibling on one side and Grealish on the other with Barry through the middle.

 

[GN!]

Im literally just willing to give the new owners at least a bit of time to implement their vision for the club before I start calling them for all kinds 5 minutes in..

If you can't even attempt that much, indeed given all of the negativity that has already consumed the club over the last few years as you say.. then honestly when can you?

Again - be arsed just heading to every new season with a negative mindset right from the off. That's not how you should be following a football team.. or a team in any sport for that matter.

Tend to agree, completely understand the angst at signings, I don’t think anyone thinks we are set but the worst thing would be to chuck money at utter crap and repeat the problems we have just emerged from.

A bit of patience before going nuts

 

[Zatara]

Is it a stretch yeah?? haha christ alive..

KDH walks into that side alone and instantly improves it in either of Doucoure's or Harrison's absence. How about that then?

Pickford

O'Brien - Tarks - Branthwaite - Myko/Aznou

Garner/Armstrong --- Gana

Alcaraz/McNeil --- KDH ----- Ndiaye

Beto/Barry​

Literally any variation of that XI above is better than anything we fielded last season.. and if you genuinely disagree then I'm afraid I really can't help you.

You've dropped KDH into the 10 role where Alcaraz is better. The only reason to play KDH over Alcaraz is because Moyes has chosen KDH while Alcaraz was somewhat forced on him.

KDH would naturally (he says so himself) be a CM 8 and then hes competing with Gana.

If played in his natural position or if everyone had a clean slate, KDH doesnt get into the 11.

It is better….KDH is an upgrade and that’s coming from someone who thinks Garner’s much better than he’s given credit for.

I personally think Garner’s the answer to our right back problem, he’ll be very good there and KDH is much better than Garner as a midfielder.

Therefore 2 positions have improved whilst I still believe Barry will be a big improvement on the very useful, despite being awkward and limited, Beto.

If anyone thinks we’re making an outlay like that on Barry but not planning on playing him, they’re being very naive. Moyes has never seemed convinced by Beto and I still believe Barry will be our main striker this season.

Garner is a long way off looking like a RB. He played a youth tournament there for the eventual winners, its not like he was playing in the premier league for everton.

No chance Barry starts over Beto. None.

Right. So our best team is ten players we had last season plus KDH instead of Garner or Alcaraz.

It’s really weird to me when people pretend we (presently) have a significantly better first eleven than we had available last season. We may have by the end of the window, I sure as hell hope so. But saying we do now, with such utter conviction is just blind faith.

Would you say KDH plays ahead of Gana or Alcaraz and is a level up on either?

Not for me, not even debatable. I dont see him as a starter and think the only reason he'd start is for stubborn Moyes to push his signing rather than Thelwells masterstroke.

It is only as tedious as someone constantly trying to state that everything is hunky dory and that we are better off than at time X over and over again. Which is your whole schtick. You are constantly berating people for not being over the moon about our current situation and also overstate how great everything is to the point of tedium, so maybe have a look inward before getting snippy with others.

Just so I don't get a warning for engaging with your nonsense I will state that I hope we sign Dibling soon.

@Toffe3m4n seems to think KDH is the 2nd coming of Olivier Dacourt, Gary Speed and Mikel Arteta rolled into one.

He may well be, though for me he's not even a starter.

@Kevsleftpeg claims to be a lawyer (who doesnt know the rules, so thats irrelevant) and alludes to knowing more about £50mil+ deals than anyone else and the psychology around them -- which is clearly false. They seem to enjoy putting others down and have a false sense of superiority.


Not sure why posters act like they're better than others and pretend to know more than they actually do.

It's quite pathetic really.

 

[Zatara]

Can anyone conceive of a Everton team going into the Leeds game with Dibling on one side and Grealish on the other with Barry through the middle.

0% chance.

 

[GN!]

I honestly feel your posts seem to incredibly miss any context of what this club has been for the last few years. If you were posting this stuff say when Martinez, Koeman or Silva joined I could probably understand but for god sake have you not seen the levels of incompetence that the club is capable of?

I dont think its been long enough to judge this current regime yes we have been mismanaged in the past hopefully the architects of that have been phased out.

It’s a tough situation we need to fill out the squad but as I posted elsewhere we just have come out of the stupid Moshiri era signings and can’t afford to repeat that.

My take is we are trying to get things done in a responsible manner. Only time will tell if it is the right strategy and if we execute the strategy well.

Fingers crossed.

Certainly understand the calls for urgency though

 

[LABlue2]

Sign Dibling Grealish and Hakimi and we’ll be looking good

 

[carolinablue232]

Sign Dibling Grealish and Hakimi and we’ll be looking good

Let’s throw in musiala for good measure

 

[GN!]

You've dropped KDH into the 10 role where Alcaraz is better. The only reason to play KDH over Alcaraz is because Moyes has chosen KDH while Alcaraz was somewhat forced on him.

KDH would naturally (he says so himself) be a CM 8 and then hes competing with Gana.

If played in his natural position or if everyone had a clean slate, KDH doesnt get into the 11.



Garner is a long way off looking like a RB. He played a youth tournament there for the eventual winners, its not like he was playing in the premier league for everton.

No chance Barry starts over Beto. None.





Would you say KDH plays ahead of Gana or Alcaraz and is a level up on either?

Not for me, not even debatable. I dont see him as a starter and think the only reason he'd start is for stubborn Moyes to push his signing rather than Thelwells masterstroke.



@Toffe3m4n seems to think KDH is the 2nd coming of Olivier Dacourt, Gary Speed and Mikel Arteta rolled into one.

He may well be, though for me he's not even a starter.

@Kevsleftpeg claims to be a lawyer (who doesnt know the rules, so thats irrelevant) and alludes to knowing more about £50mil+ deals than anyone else and the psychology around them -- which is clearly false. They seem to enjoy putting others down and have a false sense of superiority.


Not sure why posters act like they're better than others and pretend to know more than they actually do.

It's quite pathetic really.

Again we’ll all want signings I personally think KDH will get plenty of game time and I think he will make a significant contribution to the team. Is he the headline signing hopefully not but in building a squad he’s certainly a positive addition.

You are right that garner as a rb would be a stop gap measure and his experience at the position is at the underage level. But he has a grounding in the position so it’s an option. That said obviously it would be a break in case of emergency option. I hope we sign an RB, but there does seem to be dearth of options out there

You’ve knocked the aznou signing from the little shown he obviously has some skills and is a developmental type again as a squad building signing it’s promising. I thought he might be able to fill in at RB?

Barry for me is the unknown quantity.

Travers is fine as a backup and again squad depth is fine.

I don’t mind chasing Dibling expensive but there is huge upside.

Undoubtedly we need more signings and ones at the high level but I do think we are trying to get signings done in a systematic manner. Yes we start in a week but I’d rather make the right signings a little late than repeat the mistakes of the past.

Also, you claiming that other poster opinions is a case they think know better than you is a bit petulant isn’t it. This site is largely built on opinions I’d dare say even yours are not infallible.

I just think there is a lot to the point made about giving the new regime time , might be uncomfortable for us but I guess all we can do is have faith that we will be able to work it out. Obviously as the close of the window approaches I think there will be far more clarity in who is available where and what deals can be made, that’s just the nature of it