Confirmed Signing Jack Grealish

[Lob]

£12M for a loan is ridiculous

We paid £25 million for Gbamin for 8 games and got nothing back for him.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

£12M for a loan is ridiculous

I’m not sure it’s so ridiculous really if it’s a total cost.

The per annum cost (fee plus wages) for all PL players is really high.

Just using loan player examples, Harrison was costing 5m a year, Lindstrom was a 3m loan fee plus probably the same in wages.

Does Grealish justify twice as much as Harrison or Lindstrom? I’d say yes. Or looking at it another way, you roll two poor players into one top class player for only marginally more cost.

 

[Lob]

Yeah we’ve tried this way of working before. I won’t remind you how it ended.

Still don't care mate. TFG are clearly nothing like Moshiri and Grealish is a quality player.

 

[SteStocksDJ]

I like this framing in terms of roi or return on investment
each place is usually about 3m. so if his loan fee is 10-12m he needs to at least take us from 13th to 9th (breakeven)

still sounds expensive but this is just one part of the discussion,
Grealish would sell more shirts and tickets, bring more eyeballs for our sexy new brand of football

Exactly.

Even if it ends up costing us 7/8m - the perception changes towards us. Players who are just below that elite level with the potential to break it will give more weight to joining us and that’s where we will kick on.

People forget in the last couple of years we have had players turn us down for Bournemouth and Southampton.

 

[Who's_up_for_cumpkins?]

Isn't the 12 million fee quoted not his wages for the season AND the loan fee?

Can't be arsed doing the maths but seems we're allegedly happy to pay somewhere between 100-150k pw of his wages so that and a loan fee would be about 12 million?

 

[allen]

£12M for a loan is ridiculous

It's a 'premium loan', though. That makes it fine.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

This is brilliantly barmy.

Are you saying in this era Zidane and Figo would be considered duffers?

BIzarre how you could come to that conclusion. Midfielders/wingers weren't judged on goals scored so much back then.

 

[Neiler]

I’m not sure it’s so ridiculous really if it’s a total cost.

The per annum cost (fee plus wages) for all PL players is really high.

Just using loan player examples, Harrison was costing 5m a year, Lindstrom was a 3m loan fee plus probably the same in wages.

Does Grealish justify twice as much as Harrison or Lindstrom? I’d say yes. Or looking at it another way, you roll two poor players into one top class player for only marginally more cost.

Andre Gomes annual cost to the club was £11mill.

Yerry Mina was just shy of £14mill annually.

Iwobi wasn't far off either.

Wages and amortisation.

 

[matty1878]

Yeah we’ve tried this way of working before. I won’t remind you how it ended.

completely different now.

although 200k is a joke

 

[Drico]

Exactly.

Even if it ends up costing us 7/8m - the perception changes towards us. Players who are just below that elite level with the potential to break it will give more weight to joining us and that’s where we will kick on.

People forget in the last couple of years we have had players turn us down for Bournemouth and Southampton.

Yes, one of the key success factors of this summer will be the signing who elevates us and makes us more attractive in the future to others. Call it the "statement" signing or the glamour signing, but it is a prerequisite to improvement.

If we sign plodders and "good pros" exclusively, then that's who we will attract in the future. That won't take us too far.

In some ways, Grealish for one year is less of a gamble than Dibling. Grealish is a proven player. We know his attributes and faults. Dibling is a bit of a black box. Unproven. Dibling might prove inspired, but I don't see his signing as a catalyst in the way a Grealish type would be.

I'm not a huge fan of Grealish, by the way. But we do need a player of his level for eyeballs and to change perspectives. We think we are one of the great clubs - and our history says we are. But we are living purely in the last these past 35 years. We have achieved next to nothing in that time and been about as glamorous as a Hilda Ogden hair curler.

Showing my age with that one. But then, so are Everton...

 

[Rich1878]

Sorry if already posted

 

[Neiler]

Yes, one of the key success factors of this summer will be the signing who elevates us and makes us more attractive in the future to others. Call it the "statement" signing or the glamour signing, but it is a prerequisite to improvement.

If we sign plodders and "good pros" exclusively, then that's who we will attract in the future. That won't take us too far.

In some ways, Grealish for one year is less of a gamble than Dibling. Grealish is a proven player. We know his attributes and faults. Dibling is a bit of a black box. Unproven. Dibling might prove inspired, but I don't see his signing as a catalyst in the way a Grealish type would be.

I'm not a huge fan of Grealish, by the way. But we do need a player of his level for eyeballs and to change perspectives. We think we are one of the great clubs - and our history says we are. But we are living purely in the last these past 35 years. We have achieved next to nothing in that time and been about as glamorous as a Hilda Ogden hair curler.

Showing my age with that one. But then, so are Everton...

We've signed a fair few prospects as well, that wont hit the ground running in the starting 11 bar KDH - Grealsih would give us a bit of PL know how in advanced positions.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Andre Gomes annual cost to the club was £11mill.

Yerry Mina was just shy of £14mill annually.

Iwobi wasn't far off either.

Wages and amortisation.

Exactly. Footballers at this level are just really really expensive. I don’t think a 12m cost for one year of Grealish is at all disproportionate.

 

[ToffeeTim]

£12M for a loan is ridiculous

It's a lot but Grealish is a player who changes a lot of perceptions about Everton and in a very good way.

 

[matty1878]

You lot are too used to shopping are Aldi

listen i’ve seen you come to goodison
and not even fill the away end.

you may NOW be more successful

it’s took you zillions to do it tho

and you will never ever be bigger than everton fc