Confirmed Signing Tyler Dibling

[Kevsleftpeg]

Signing a young player with about 1 goal to his name for £40 million should be unrealistic from our side, not Southampton's. This might be controversial but I'd rather sign Harvey Elliott. If you want a left footed player who can dribble, assist and score a few goals, he has already done it in the Premier League, isn't that old and would probably cost about the same amount.

He would cost less because he has less scope for improvement. Dibling could be the next Bale. Harvey Elliot, although decent, won't get to anywhere near that level.

 

[hallamblue]

He would cost less because he has less scope for improvement. Dibling could be the next Bale. Harvey Elliot, although decent, won't get to anywhere near that level.

He could also be the next Jordan Ibe. Not sure we're in a position to be taking chances like this, we need better players than we have.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I have been told for months how Dibling is an "unrealistic" target.

Wouldnt it be fun if we signed an "unrealistic" target?

No, you suggested we chuck 60 mil plus add ons at him and rigg despite us being psr bound

You then went on to say rashford (who just signed for Barca) is awful

 

[Black Panda]

Dibling technically is insanely good. By a country mile our most talented youngster since Bale and has the potential to go right to the very top. He tailed off a bit second half of last season but can't have been easy playing for us with how poor we were and especially for a kid in his first season of men's football.

Obviously no guarantee he'll realise that potential but he's worth the risk imo. £40m is a lot but football is mental these days and that's what you're paying for that level of potential, and if it works out you'll be selling him for more than double that a couple years down the line.

Those types of players are a rarity these days too in the robotic game we have now. Someone who raises the anticipation levels in the ground whenever he picks up the ball.

Think where you're at as a club would be a good move for him too as he needs somewhere he'll play regularly.

I know I'm biased but I actually think a full championship season would be the best thing for him to get him used to the physicality of the game similar to Grealish at Villa. Very early on last season teams started targeting him to try and kick him off the pitch and that's something he'll have to get used to.

But I know that's very unlikely and if he's moving on you'd be a perfect destination for him imo. Big club who've been rubbish for a while and therefore he can play a part.

 

[bluestevon]

Signing a young player with about 1 goal to his name for £40 million should be unrealistic from our side, not Southampton's. This might be controversial but I'd rather sign Harvey Elliott. If you want a left footed player who can dribble, assist and score a few goals, he has already done it in the Premier League, isn't that old and would probably cost about the same amount.

I do like Elliot.

But if we are talking on statistics.

Elliot is 3 years older.

Let's ignore cup games etc just focus on the premier league games

Elliot 92 games 5 goals. 3650 minutes
Dibling 33 games, 2 goals, 1800 minutes.

On costs, Elliot likely would cost 10m more up front, and his wages would be considerably higher - likely double minimum.

 

[Billy Dean]

Anthony Gordon had what 4 goals in 50 league games for Everton yet he was sold for around £45 million. He has improved at Newcastle and had a good career to date.

Dibling only had 2 league goals in an awful team but watching him play it's obvious to anyone who understands football that he has ability and plenty of potential.

This.

 

[bluestevon]

Dibling technically is insanely good. By a country mile our most talented youngster since Bale and has the potential to go right to the very top. He tailed off a bit second half of last season but can't have been easy playing for us with how poor we were and especially for a kid in his first season of men's football.

Obviously no guarantee he'll realise that potential but he's worth the risk imo. £40m is a lot but football is mental these days and that's what you're paying for that level of potential, and if it works out you'll be selling him for more than double that a couple years down the line.

Those types of players are a rarity these days too in the robotic game we have now. Someone who raises the anticipation levels in the ground whenever he picks up the ball.

Think where you're at as a club would be a good move for him too as he needs somewhere he'll play regularly.

I know I'm biased but I actually think a full championship season would be the best thing for him to get him used to the physicality of the game similar to Grealish at Villa. Very early on last season teams started targeting him to try and kick him off the pitch and that's something he'll have to get used to.

But I know that's very unlikely and if he's moving on you'd be a perfect destination for him imo. Big club who've been rubbish for a while and therefore he can play a part.

On the eye he reminds me a lot of Palmer at Chelsea, without currently the end product ofc but similar skill set and way of running

 

[bluestevon]

I tend to agree. Players that overly rely on pace can be a bit one dimensional and flatter to deceive. Dibling might have a bit a bit of magic in boots. His close control and dribbling looks a bit special if he can add end product in a better team. Imagine having two wingers with genuine ability rather than one of them being Jack Harrison. Just get him.

Pace that's needed is the pace to beat a man and I CE you do he stays beat, Ndiaye has that, so does this kid, you don't need to be road runner fast and there's an obsession with some to have players who straight line speed are burners, honestly it's not needed. City don't currently hse a single player I'd describe as being as fast as say Delefeou or Demari Gray for example

 

[bluestevon]

No, you suggested we chuck 60 mil plus add ons at him and rigg despite us being psr bound

You then went on to say rashford (who just signed for Barca) is awful

Yeah zat was just saying pay silly sums, for what it's worth having watched rigg a lot, he's definitely behind this lad currently and whilst super talented still a year or two away from playing a lot in the league.

A bit like Mcatee who I'm obsessed with - proved at Sheffield united he can hack it at a crap team and not let his head drop, so did this lad , those are massively important traits when biting a younger player as it shows they have a strong character

 

[Bkk Andy]

Do we have the budget for 40m or whatever it will eventually cost on a young kid with potential? It's a big risk when we need players for now and a lot of them. I'd be worried if we were emptying the transfer kitty for him.

It's the kind of deal Chelsea make that's looks great but we're not in that position.

 

[Zatara]

Fofana looks good on the eye and he's super super fast, but is he much better - unknown totally, Dibling for a cheaper initial price and far cheaper player costs in terms of wages and fees for a player who actually wants to be here with no messing us about.

Rather have Dibling.

In theory you 'should' go for the English player because of home grown rules, sponsorship/marketing when they get into the England side and i think its great when we have England players.

We absolutely need both though. Also, Dibling wont be on the wing for long.

Dibling technically is insanely good. By a country mile our most talented youngster since Bale and has the potential to go right to the very top. He tailed off a bit second half of last season but can't have been easy playing for us with how poor we were and especially for a kid in his first season of men's football.

Obviously no guarantee he'll realise that potential but he's worth the risk imo. £40m is a lot but football is mental these days and that's what you're paying for that level of potential, and if it works out you'll be selling him for more than double that a couple years down the line.

Those types of players are a rarity these days too in the robotic game we have now. Someone who raises the anticipation levels in the ground whenever he picks up the ball.

Think where you're at as a club would be a good move for him too as he needs somewhere he'll play regularly.

I know I'm biased but I actually think a full championship season would be the best thing for him to get him used to the physicality of the game similar to Grealish at Villa. Very early on last season teams started targeting him to try and kick him off the pitch and that's something he'll have to get used to.

But I know that's very unlikely and if he's moving on you'd be a perfect destination for him imo. Big club who've been rubbish for a while and therefore he can play a part.

Agreed. The one thing i dont think anyone has mentioned in this thread (which i did a few months ago) is his spacial awareness.

Ignoring everything else, when I watched him on tv and even on the odd youtube video he is adept at creating space for himself and positioning his body perfectly to be 'just' away from the defender.

Cant be easy either with teams knowing he would be the main threat and focusing on him.

2 years time he'll be a top top top player.

 

[bluestevon]

Do we have the budget for 40m or whatever it will eventually cost on a young kid with potential? It's a big risk when we need players for now and a lot of them. I'd be worried if we were emptying the transfer kitty for him.

It's the kind of deal Chelsea make that's looks great but we're not in that position.

If TFG are doing what I think they may, we very well could have a set budget in terms of overall costs allowed to use, then a extra pot specifically tied in with spending on developmental players under 20-21. If that's the long term model then separating the amounts guarantees we focus on youth as it's ringfenced for that.

 

[Nymzee]

Well if he's on it the deal can't be happening.

 

[Zatara]

Yeah zat was just saying pay silly sums, for what it's worth having watched rigg a lot, he's definitely behind this lad currently and whilst super talented still a year or two away from playing a lot in the league.

A bit like Mcatee who I'm obsessed with - proved at Sheffield united he can hack it at a crap team and not let his head drop, so did this lad , those are massively important traits when biting a younger player as it shows they have a strong character

Would you be disappointed with £35mil + £5mil in add ons / clauses for Dibling?

I'd GLADLY pay that & the same for Chris Rigg.

Theyre going right to the very top level.

Not "silly sums" in the slightest.

 

[DanB90]

Any word from Myers?