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I think it's more a case that the backroom staff can't bring in the players we need or can't do it quick enough.
There's loads of teams who are struggling to meaningfully add to their squads. It feels like we got the European super league, just through the back door. A definite 2 tier system, both in terms of the league's application of psr and also the scab 6's ability to build massive squads while the rest of the clubs fight for scraps.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
...yes, who weren't spending anything until the summer.
Utterly daft stuff you dredge up from 'the vaults'.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
I dredge it up so everyone can laugh at your hypocrisy and quite obvious WUMming.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
So what exactly are you having a go at Moyes here for? He agrees with you, that the leadership above him is failing him. He’s absolutely fuming and keeps calling it out repeatedly. So again, what actually is your issue with Moyes? Seemingly you don’t even know yourself, and are just aimlessly thrashing about in this thread like a beached fish.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Moyes is experienced enough to know not to go saying stuff that can be interpreted in a way that eventually is used against you.
Back in May he should have just stuck to the message that the squad needed gutting and money had to be spent. But his ego got in the way and he handed TFG mixed messages.
That's not to excuse the 'exceptional operators' unexceptional performance, btw . But Moyes does make it easy for owners not to seriously spend cash.
Wait... Are you... David Moyes?
I hoped to have a little optimism going into this season, it's draining.
His comments around desperation, being near the bottom the last 5 years, not having the players to compete etc arent helpful, and self serving. They only help himself.
We shouldn't be surprised - it's who he is, and what he does ahead of a new season. He replaced Alex Ferguson at Man Utd, who'd just pissed the league an he did it there. He joined Sunderland who'd had 10+ years in the Prem an declared before a ball was kicked that it would be a miracle if he kept them up. We could have signed 10 players, and he'd be downplaying expectations - he'd be saying will take time for so many to gel, and dialling up his reservations about adapting to a new stadium etc.
I felt worst prior the start of the last 2 seasons. But despite the problems we had, much worse than now and unable to spend, we were comfortable - 22 and 23 points clear. We've lost Calvert-Lewin an Doucoure who 9/10 people on this forum did nothing but slate to Barry and Alcaraz. I've no doubt we'll sign better than Lindstrom an Harrison. That considered, we shouldn't be in trouble this season and we'll surely spend.
His comments around desperation, being near the bottom the last 5 years, not having the players to compete etc arent helpful, and self serving. They only help himself.
We shouldn't be surprised - it's who he is, and what he does ahead of a new season. He replaced Alex Ferguson at Man Utd, who'd just pissed the league an he did it there. He joined Sunderland who'd had 10+ years in the Prem an declared before a ball was kicked that it would be a miracle if he kept them up. We could have signed 10 players, and he'd be downplaying expectations - he'd be saying will take time for so many to gel, and dialling up his reservations about adapting to a new stadium etc.
I felt worst prior the start of the last 2 seasons. But despite the problems we had, much worse than now and unable to spend, we were comfortable - 22 and 23 points clear. We've lost Calvert-Lewin an Doucoure who 9/10 people on this forum did nothing but slate to Barry and Alcaraz. I've no doubt we'll sign better than Lindstrom an Harrison. That considered, we shouldn't be in trouble this season and we'll surely spend.
I don't really agree. Is there any top flight manager who would be happy going on a pre season tour with about 14 fit senior outfield players?
He expected to be backed, and he needed to be backed because we don't have enough players. I'm glad we're hearing common sense from the manager rather than the CEO telling us everything is on track. We all can see what's going on - we don't need the club to tell us we are wrong and everything is fine every summer.
He's part of the recruitment team, if not the most significant.
He's entitled to be unhappy, but broadcasting it in the way he is, is self serving, isn't constructive or helpful.
There's a reason the CEO and club try an manage perception - Moyes is admitting perception is not helping with our efforts, and at the same time he's adding to a negative perception. 'nobody wants to join us, probably because we've been near the bottom for 5 years' 'we need 9 or 10 players *LAUGHS*'
Furey1878
Player Valuation: £70m
I think Moyes hasn't downplayed expectations as such just yet. He's been quoted on a few occasions saying that we should be aiming to crack into Europe. The comments are much clearer digs at the recruitment team to get deals done rather than self-preservation, for me.
That said, I'd be a liar if I said that I'm not just a little worried that him putting all this stuff out there might not be helping the situation.
We will get deals done, just a shame we habitually have to write off August.
Hinchcliffe's Corner
Player Valuation: £50m
But that's exactly what you love as well, seeing as that was Dyches only requisite last season and we now have an even weaker squad.Not a chance. These are the situations Moyes enjoys: being able to build a case that survival is the objective.
He loves this. He's a pig inright now.
NathDogg
Player Valuation: £50m
Dour disappointed desperate Davey is a key part of the transfer team so knows the situation.
He doesn’t need to continually keep ramming it down everyone’s throats, hence why sky are now taking the piss.
The ongoing public bitching about lack of numbers and pace of transfers helps no one but himself tbh.
Frustrating me that we seem to be doing one deal/position at a time tbh, love to see a few double signings happen like we used to do.
Tbh we might have to do doubles!
Time to move onto other targets Everton (please have other targets…..)
He doesn’t need to continually keep ramming it down everyone’s throats, hence why sky are now taking the piss.
The ongoing public bitching about lack of numbers and pace of transfers helps no one but himself tbh.
Frustrating me that we seem to be doing one deal/position at a time tbh, love to see a few double signings happen like we used to do.
Tbh we might have to do doubles!
Time to move onto other targets Everton (please have other targets…..)
Spoke about that a lot mate, most recently here but the real acid test was always before the season.
We needed to hear that after the last few years we've had, and more importantly to Moyes, he knows what the owners wanted to hear.
Exactly that, anyone arguing differently are kidding themselves.
Within all of it, we also have to remember that Moyes is core to the recruitment team too. So any recruitment failings/successes, reflect on him
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