Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread


Devils advocate time

Everyone assumes the players are saying 'no, for now' means because they are waiting for better options in terms of CL etc.

What if the no is because we are offering say 80k PW and those players are demanding 150k. Is the want CL almost a way of saying we want the wages the likes of Chelsea and United pay for 19-21yo players.

If so it becomes a game of chicken between the clubs and players now, once the huge wage payers have do either business you will have a lot of players wanting moves still, sat on contracts of 20-40k in France or Germany etc or on first pro contracts here - are they gonna insist to the point of not getting moves for maybe 80k and end up earning that 20-40 or do they compromise and take the 80....

I think you are seeing a bit of a power struggle between clubs and agents/players on gaining back some form of upper hand.

Be interesting the later it goes towards the end of the window - agents require those moves to keep the money rolling.
 
Zatara said:
As opposed to some celebrating and claiming Doucoure was one of our best players?

Nothing to do with the manager or Moyes, a dead rubber.

Do you celebrate wins in preseason too?



Its a risk whether we wait or roll the dice on players down the list.

Im at the point now where i wonder how long the list even is because there seems to be a lack of anything.
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Can pretty. Uch say with almost certainly that our only "top" target, in terms of recruitment for a position that has moved this summer was Delap - and we quickly after moved to ensure we got Barry.

Time to worry is when players we are seriously interested in starting moving and we sit static

And I mean players we genuinely have e listed as a priority - not the likes of tete who was an opportunistic punt.
 

MikeH72 said:
He would be a massive upgrade on Tim Iroegbunam. We need more than 1 central midfielder. We need a minimum of 2 and I actually would prefer 3 adding Brownhill on a free. Our best midfielder is 36 and his legs could go at any point in the season.
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Iroegbunam is at best a squad player with potential. Why bring in Brownhill who's nearly 30 and his best accomplishment is being a standout in the Championship? I think Moyes would probably want to bring Brownhill in too but I think for us to improve you need to be patient and go for the more elite players where because there will be competition for his signature you will have to be more patient with negotiations. Losing a couple of games on a pre-season jolly without your 2 best centre backs and goalkeeper isn't a reason to start panic buying limited lower Premier League players nearing 30
 
Our recruitment team don’t know what they are doing. You fine tune the squad with elite players when you have the basic skeleton of a squad to start with, and can fill a match day squad. We’ve tried to do the luxury business first, and it’s left us going into August with 17 senior first teamers, of which 15 are actually fit.

We need 5 new players and I think it’s obvious at this point that they’re not all going to be elite superstars. Start adding bodies to this squad right now because it’s urgent.
 

Zatara said:
As I posted in the Keane thread...

We apparently had a deal with a club + the player but Moyes cancelled it and extended the deal with Keane.

Of course we dont know the player/club. However, surely this shows that Moyes is making decisions.

Unless were blaming Hammond for poor negotiation (small margins to play with?) or Kinnear for not signing off higher fees...

...who is responsible?

It strikes me that spending £4mil on a backup keeper who was seemingly unwanted anywhere else, perhaps wasnt the wisest use of funds.

But thats splitting hairs.

Ultimately, we know Moyes has had major issues at United when signing high profile players.

We also know he fell out with DOF(s) at West Ham and poorly recruited at Sunderland.

The fact is that Moyes is 'known' to want control. Do people really believe he's not in control of players names on lists? Nor is he in control of agreeing budgets with Kinnear and Hammond?

He has form for complaining in public at United and West Ham.

If its a money issue then he knows it already and shouldnt be publically commenting on it.

If its a challenge and a delay due to going for targets looking at a higher level then he is also aware of it.

What is he actually doing other than throwing his toys out of the pram that players he has selected (after supposedly months of preparation) arent jumping to play for him?

I'm interested to understand how this doesnt fall on him.
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What a dumb post. your deep hate for moyes is embarrassing now.
 
Marcus Kendall said:
Iroegbunam is at best a squad player with potential. Why bring in Brownhill who's nearly 30 and his best accomplishment is being a standout in the Championship? I think Moyes would probably want to bring Brownhill in too but I think for us to improve you need to be patient and go for the more elite players where because there will be competition for his signature you will have to be more patient with negotiations. Losing a couple of games on a pre-season jolly without your 2 best centre backs and goalkeeper isn't a reason to start panic buying limited lower Premier League players nearing 30
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How’s it a panic buy if he’s a free agent?

We need a minimum of 5 new players and they’re not all going to be £30m marquee signings. We need to start filling the squad out. To be honest I think there’s barely any difference between Brownhill and James Garner and I’d be interested to see if someone can convince me there is.
 
bluestevon said:
Can pretty. Uch say with almost certainly that our only "top" target, in terms of recruitment for a position that has moved this summer was Delap - and we quickly after moved to ensure we got Barry.

Time to worry is when players we are seriously interested in starting moving and we sit static

And I mean players we genuinely have e listed as a priority - not the likes of tete who was an opportunistic punt.
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Great point this, we aren’t seeing players we are strongly linked with going elsewhere just yet but we are struggling to convince them to join us. One big game of chicken
 
Zatara said:
You think hes just left a list of names and thats his part completed?

If so then that would explain his summer at united dont you think?



I wonder if were still stuck on the A list as theres no final decision from players and theres a lack of alternative names on a list.



Clearly a huge divide on what Everton and e.g Chelsea can pay in fees and wages.

It makes sense for players to hold out...BUT surely, i mean SURELY there have been discussions about this for months?



Fantastic riposte.
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You think because you write these long laborious,quasi-analytical posts that they are somehow deserving of an equal retort....well they're not.

Your post was just that "BALLS,"

Not one of your posts comes from balanced,fair minded thinking.

It's easy to see your hatred for Moyes because it seeps right through anything you post,and leaves you unable to deal with actual facts.

Your hatred is that strong you openly admitted to not celebrating a 94th winner because he picked Doucoure,which led me to believe you're not actually an Evertonian.

I think you're more just someone obsessed with Computer games and scouting players though a PC monitor,which is fine but I'd suggest you'd stay in that lane👍

Is that Riposte any better?
 

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