Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

You should check his transfer record back then. You might be surprised how few players he brought from Championship.

Championship: Lescott, Jagielka, Cahill, Stones, Kilbane, Bent
Premier League: Yakubu, Johnson, Baines, Distin, Neville, Howard, Martyn, Gibson, Saha
JPL: Fellaini
Super League 1 (Greece): Mirallas
Ligue 1: Yobo
La Liga: Arteta
Bundesliga: Pienaar
Irish Premier League: Coleman

Those should be most of the important signings he made then.

Jagielka was a push as was bought the summer Sheffield united went down from the premiership as well. Bent I think also had spent the season before on loan to a premier league side, you missed Beckford off though as think Leeds were champ back then or may div one.
 

With all due respect Brighton are a nothing club and are simply happy being self sufficient and running a steady ship. That sounds disrespectful but they’ve never had aspirations to evolve and be successful. We’ve had a long proud history of success and unfortunately for the younger fan base, all they’ve ever known is a badly run club that sees 7th position as a success a la Brighton/Fulham.

We shouldn’t be aiming to copy the model of a Brighton football club. Good scouting, signing talented young players then selling them on for a healthy profit is absolutely fine if you have no ambition to be anything else other than a self sufficient mid table nothing club.

The point still stands, at some point you have to pay the big wages if you want to compete at the top end of the table. If you copy Brighton’s playbook, sign talent at 20 years old on low wages, and then inevitably lose them when they outgrow you and are demanding triple their current wage, then you’ll never progress as a football club to anything other than mid table fodder.

You can’t simply rely on finding these unpolished gems on a regular basis either. It isn’t an exact science and is harder than it seems.
I get what you're saying, though I probably should've caveated by saying that it's not a model that should be strictly adhered to long-term if you have the ambition to reach the very top, which Everton should. Im merely saying that it's a good model that we should be adopting to try and at least get us up the league into regular Europa league contention - then you can shift the model to these proven quality players across the continent who seem to value regularly participation in the European competitions above all..
 
I disagree. We can't go from relegation battlers to attracting superstars in such a short period. Moyes will bring a couple of seasons of stability, with decent level players coming in. Push us to mid table regulars. We move on from there. We'll improve in stages.
Disagree. We are so far behind other sides at the moment and the gap just gets bigger and bigger. We need to turbocharge things a bit. Signing mid-level dross and nothing else, keeps you there at best and probably actually moves you backwards. You then get stuck with players no-one else really wants- that's been our issue for years. We need to find a way of getting some actual quality into the squad.
 

So from your figure bought from English football it’s a 50/50 split between PL/FL . Don’t you think that’s a bigger percentage than the vast majority of managers?

Feel pretty championship heavy that .
I have no idea. Some clubs do seem to sign players from the Championship but I have no interest in going through them. I just wanted to dispel the myth that Moyes mostly operated in the Championship.
 
Jagielka was a push as was bought the summer Sheffield united went down from the premiership as well. Bent I think also had spent the season before on loan to a premier league side, you missed Beckford off though as think Leeds were champ back then or may div one.
Yeah, that list was obviously missing players. Naismith, Donovan, McBride etc. come to mind.
 
I have no idea. Some clubs do seem to sign players from the Championship but I have no interest in going through them. I just wanted to dispel the myth that Moyes mostly operated in the Championship.
Yeah I don’t know but I do think or I’m suspecting for a team that semi regularly qualified for Europe 50/50 in the domestic market bucks the trend .
 
He had a decent run of 5-6 games coinciding with us being absolutely dreadful, and every other time looked lost positionally.

And it's not rhetoric - it's watching a player who has no sense of awareness defensively and is not focused on what's around him. Soon as mangala came on we looked way better as we did when garner came in for mangala when he got crocked.
Agreed, he is very raw. There are some building blocks there but lots of improvement needed if he ever becomes a PL starter. He is careless in possession and as you say, lacks awareness. Both are major issues in a central midfield player. First should be easier to coach out of him but improving the latter is tricky. Hopefully he could go out on loan for a season. That should show if he will ever make it at this level.
 

So from your figure bought from English football it’s a 50/50 split between PL/FL . Don’t you think that’s a bigger percentage than the vast majority of managers?

Feel pretty championship heavy that .
It depends how you look at it really, in that Kilbane, Bent and Jagielka from that list were technically bought from Championship clubs, but had all spent the most recent season in the PL, so it wasn't really raiding the Championship for it's best players as the original post was saying.
 
Agreed, he is very raw. There are some building blocks there but lots of improvement needed if he ever becomes a PL starter. He is careless in possession and as you say, lacks awareness. Both are major issues in a central midfield player. First should be easier to coach out of him but improving the latter is tricky. Hopefully he could go out on loan for a season. That should show if he will ever make it at this level.
Was talking it over with our kid the other day and he reckoned he's actually more a ten - but not exceptional in anything to play there at the top level. Never thought about it but think he's right on that.

Hard to teach someone awareness is something footy iq though which is something Moyes always wanted in that midfield.
 
There are plenty of good quality players that aren't high profile. It is the recruitment and scouting job to locate and identify them and give the Manager the tools that he needs. Target high profile sure but have a big backup list for if or when they say no. To only have 2 actual new signings at this point is pretty pathetic tbh.
That actually sounds like thats what they're doing though? Its a risky strategy in a transfer window.. but arent most of them for clubs with a bit of ambition to get better?

We still have just over a month of the window to go and I suspect we'll continue to move through the phases right up to the last day.
 

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