G.A.A. 2025.

[Neiler]

Exactly that. It won’t be reported as this though as the ‘purists’ won the big one. Kerry are as defensive as any Ulster team but never seem to get the same negative press.

Kerry were very cynical today, both in their approach, tactically and how they approached the game - purists my eye.

I don't know if you were watching on RTE but they had Eamon Fitzmaurice co-commentating - calling all the Kerry players by their first names, he managed a lot of them at County, Club and School - how is that fair and unbiased commentary.

Kerry were disgraceful at times trying to kill the game, or taking lads out - not a word - its wrong.

 

[Drico]

You could say Munster is penalised for having a great provincial hurling championship, but our sides simply get on with reaching the final.

Kerry massively deserving champions, Donegal afraid to take a risk or even a shot at two points.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Overall the new rules haven't been the catalyst i thought they'd be, laid bare today in a boring, often cynical final, they can be manipulated as much as the old rules.

The two pointer killed the game as a contest of jeopardy today in all honestly.

I dunno, it's up to teams to adapt to the new rules. Today Donegal (and Dublin for most of the year) didn't even try to incorporate the 2 pointer into their game plan. Whether they just don't have the players who can consistently kick them or they felt the risk/reward wasn't there for them.

Kerry deserved it but the point is valid re the run to the quarter finals. Ulster teams are the walking wounded by then but in fairness you can only beat what’s in front of you. I still would retain the provinces but love to see Sam as an open draw like the FA Cup.

Double edged sword though isn't it. Kerry sometimes are undercooked when they meet the first decent side they play and would the Northen Counties be as competitive as they are without the Ulster championship.

I'd be loathed to do away with the provincials.

 

[Neiler]

You could say Munster is penalised for having a great provincial hurling championship, but our sides simply get on with reaching the final.

Kerry massively deserving champions, Donegal afraid to take a risk or even a shot at two points.

Thats a good point as well mate - Donegal werent very brave today, i thought Kerry were at times were there to be got at, goals on and they went for pints etc.

It wasn't great fare overall really, it was a poor final, finals often are mind.

 

[Charles Plastusz]

Down here we see it as a negative when we’re untested in Munster, hard to get to the pitch of it against battle hardened sides out of Ulster especially, if those sides are walking wounded by that point then they should maybe start playing a bit of football, as in kicking the ball and maybe, just maybe stop kicking the living shoite out of each other. Just a few suggestions like

 

[Bluerover]

Kerry were very cynical today, both in their approach, tactically and how they approached the game - purists my eye.

I don't know if you were watching on RTE but they had Eamon Fitzmaurice co-commentating - calling all the Kerry players by their first names, he managed a lot of them at County, Club and School - how is that fair and unbiased commentary.

Kerry were disgraceful at times trying to kill the game, or taking lads out - not a word - its wrong.

1980 v Roscommon was not one for the purists.

Really cynical gamesmanship by Kerry when Roscommon seemed to be getting on top.

Pat Spillane's long treatment for injury broke the momentum of Roscommon. The ref actually tried to lift him off the ground but Spillane stayed down.

Lo and behold next thing he was up and running like a greyhound.

Even Micheâl Ó Heithir wasn't fooled, doubting the authenticity of the injury.

Kerry County Board were 'angered' by Mícheál's obs.

Apparently even Micko is supposed to have admitted it was one they should have lost.

Martin Breheny described the 1980 final as in the top five worst ever.

But hats off to them, they ground out the win 1-9 to 1-6 to make it 3 in a row, followed by another, more comfortable 7 point win in 1981.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Down here we see it as a negative when we’re untested in Munster, hard to get to the pitch of it against battle hardened sides out of Ulster especially, if those sides are walking wounded by that point then they should maybe start playing a bit of football, as in kicking the ball and maybe, just maybe stop kicking the living shoite out of each other. Just a few suggestions like

Arguing against your own point there. Kerry are untested therefore never need to man up within their own province.

 

[Neiler]

1980 v Roscommon was not one for the purists.

Really cynical gamesmanship by Kerry when Roscommon seemed to be getting on top.

Pat Spillane's long treatment for injury broke the momentum of Roscommon. The ref actually tried to lift him off the ground but Spillane stayed down.

Lo and behold next thing he was up and running like a greyhound.

Even Micheâl Ó Heithir wasn't fooled, doubting the authenticity of the injury.

Kerry County Board were 'angered' by Mícheál's obs.

Apparently even Micko is supposed to have admitted it was one they should have lost.

Martin Breheny described the 1980 final as in the top five worst ever.

But hats off to them, they ground out the win 1-9 to 1-6 to make it 3 in a row, followed by another, more comfortable 7 point win in 1981.

100% mate. Look Kerry are a fine footballing county. They’ve produced some great players. But they like to portray themselves as purists, like our good friend above who maligning Northern teams in his post.

The thing is Kerry are as cynical, negative and adept in gamesmanship and the dark arts as any county in Ireland. An abiding memory of the great Dublin team was the last 20-15 mins of the replay when we were going for the five in a row, Kerry had 15 men behind ball and the Dubs were knocking it around in front of a Kerry blanket defense - that killed them.

Every Gael knows it really, fine football county, but far from purists, they have a lot of bods in the media with Fitzmauruce, the O Se’s, Gooch, Spillane etc - they use what’s supposed to be impartial punditry to further the Kerry myth, cause or not call out cynicism or the dark arts.

I’ll never forget the hatchet job Spillane did Connolly after he brushed of the lines man - frankly ended the lads footballing career and i impacted his life, was the begining of the end if him as a footballer.

 

[Charles Plastusz]

Arguing against your own point there. Kerry are untested therefore never need to man up within their own province.

Certainly not, the point I’m making is it’s all how you perceive/spin it. We believe we’re at a slight disadvantage at times with the poor state of Munster, you and others believe it’s an advantage. We had a ridiculous run to the final, the three sides we beat at Croker are serious outfits, we’ve struggled massively with injuries and yet here we’re again……….winners.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Certainly not, the point I’m making is it’s all how you perceive/spin it. We believe we’re at a slight disadvantage at times with the poor state of Munster, you and others believe it’s an advantage. We had a ridiculous run to the final, the three sides we beat at Croker are serious outfits, we’ve struggled massively with injuries and yet here we’re again……….winners.

Firstly I believe Kerry are fully deserved champions and beating Armagh, Tyrone and Donegal is some achievement.

My point is that Kerry have the luxury of resting players throughout Munster as they have no competition outside a very limited Cork team. Most of Kerry’s games are over at half time as a contest. In Ulster, Armagh; Tyrone; Donegal; Monaghan; Derry can all beat each other with Down in Newry being an absolute banana skin. You cannot go less that full championship intensity against any of those teams or you go out, simple as that. This isn’t ’kicking the Shoite’ out of each other as you put it, it is actually what every province aspires to be in terms of competition and spectacle.

 

[Charles Plastusz]

Firstly I believe Kerry are fully deserved champions and beating Armagh, Tyrone and Donegal is some achievement.

My point is that Kerry have the luxury of resting players throughout Munster as they have no competition outside a very limited Cork team. Most of Kerry’s games are over at half time as a contest. In Ulster, Armagh; Tyrone; Donegal; Monaghan; Derry can all beat each other with Down in Newry being an absolute banana skin. You cannot go less that full championship intensity against any of those teams or you go out, simple as that. This isn’t ’kicking the Shoite’ out of each other as you put it, it is actually what every province aspires to be in terms of competition and spectacle.

Who did/do we rest? I get your point but it’s all how you view it. Sure we won the league, Munster, Sam…………….and Ulster

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Who did/do we rest? I get your point but it’s all how you view it. Sure we won the league, Munster, Sam…………….and Ulster

The management of David Clifford’s game time this year is a good example. Paudie as well. If you can do it then why not.

Munster doesn’t have much prestige left surely? That Cork and yourselves are seeded now to boost the attendance for the final puts it in a very bad light. Sure why don’t you join Ulster next year and see how it goes?

 

[Charles Plastusz]

The management of David Clifford’s game time this year is a good example. Paudie as well. If you can do it then why not.

Munster doesn’t have much prestige left surely? That Cork and yourselves are seeded now to boost the attendance for the final puts it in a very bad light. Sure why don’t you join Ulster next year and see how it goes?

David generally plays every minute when fit. Paudie has been massively hampered with injuries, Munster Championship is unquestionably in a sad state. We think that hampers us, you don’t, that’s absolutely fine my friend. Nothing but respect and admiration down here for the Ulster teams, if you don’t believe me then ask the Armagh lads that were down the other week

 

[Bilko]

My worry today is 3 kerry men due into work today......no show yet !.

 

[Charles Plastusz]

My worry today is 3 kerry men due into work today......no show yet !.

Tralee is eerily quiet this morning, serious amount of sick heads i reckon. Place will be bonkers this evening