Transfer Rumour Douglas Luiz

[james2805]

It's clearly because he's headed to the airport for the USA preseason tour...

 

[FTY]

That would hold no truck with Moyes.

Next….

 

[Neiler]

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I bet he was toeing the line when we signed him though.

I’d be surprised if Moyes colluded with something like this.

 

[james2805]

I never judge these not turning up to training stories though, sometimes clubs can be irrational and players feel the only way they can force the hand of their club is to make drastic actions like this to get a move they want etc.

Not ideal, but can see why it happens at times.

 

[Neiler]

I reckon he goes to Forest now.

Hopefully that means we have a clear run for
McAtee.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

£40m for this fella seems a no-brainer to me. I take the point about taking away from other positions @GrandOldTeam but we are desperate for a ball-playing midfielder. Garner showed glimpses but far too infrequent. I'd rather take a gamble on some relative (fast) unknowns out wide and have a reliable presence on the ball in the middle to get the ball to them.

 

[FTY]

I bet he was toeing the line when we signed him though.

I’d be surprised if Moyes colluded with something like this.

Yeah all jokes aside Moyes has surely learned from what happened with VDM and Drenthe

Not that Luiz is close to their level

 

[GrandOldTeam]

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I was trying to think of players like that who Moyes signed, thing is they were always freebie types, not £30-40m.

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

I was trying to think of players like that who Moyes signed, thing is they were always freebie types, not £30-40m.

Would you like a more recent example x

Mohammed Kudus misses Ajax training as Chelsea 'close' to agreement on £40m deal

Chelsea and Arsenal are both interested in signing Ajax star Mohammed Kudus a year after he almost joined Everton before the Dutch outfit blocked his transfer exit

www.football.london

Ajax star 'refusing to train' amid reports of blocked Everton transfer

Mohammed Kudus is understood to have agreed personal terms with Everton but Ajax won't let him leave

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

 

[Neiler]

Yeah all jokes aside Moyes has surely learned from what happened with VDM and Drenthe

Not that Luiz is close to their level

Hes a good player mate - hed improve us.

But a big investment.

Danny posted a heap of stats about Luiz being very good at Villa - it begs the question why did they let him go, i know they had PSR issues, but they could have moved on a lot of players.

Hes lasted 12 months at Juve.

While he didn't cut it at CIty either.

Then he goes missing today - its very unprofessional.

Seems to be a bit of boom and bust inconsistent cycle, while it doesn't seem that hes convinced m/any managers hes a keeper for the long term.

That seems to be a bit of trend there to my mind - certainly a question if i was dong my due diligence.

 

[FTY]

I was trying to think of players like that who Moyes signed, thing is they were always freebie types, not £30-40m.

Yep, even taking into the account the Moyes era equivalent of 40m was like 8m. I actually can't think of any known nobheads we signed apart from them 2

Again though, think this is the first of heard of this type of behaviour from DL - it's his agent that worries me

 

[degsy]

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Some might also say we've had a lot of Dummies for footballers too.

Is it possible to run the OPTA style rule over old games and players and check for speeds, kms covered etc
It might be an Interesting exercise

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Would you like a more recent example x

Mohammed Kudus misses Ajax training as Chelsea 'close' to agreement on £40m deal

Chelsea and Arsenal are both interested in signing Ajax star Mohammed Kudus a year after he almost joined Everton before the Dutch outfit blocked his transfer exit

www.football.london

Ajax star 'refusing to train' amid reports of blocked Everton transfer

Mohammed Kudus is understood to have agreed personal terms with Everton but Ajax won't let him leave

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

Aye recalled that one mate, but that wasn't directly as Moyes was trying to sign him. Even that, was a loan.

I think it would be unusual for Moyes MO for a player to go AWOL/on strike when we're trying to sign him. I can't recall him ever signing a player for actual money when they've done that is all.

 

[Charro]

Perhaps not coming here if he's doing this...

If we're genuinely interested he's probably got word from us to force the move and make Juve budge on the fee.

 

[toffee66]

The flip side on Luiz is it has been widely reported that Juve has told his agent to get him a move but are also trying to recoup all their outlay. The agent has lots of interest but nobody willing to get near Juve’s terms so he feels Juve demands are making an exit impossible. The player’s only leverage is disruption and the agent advises this having failed to get any flexibility from Juve. Agents are nearly always behind this (unless the player is so out of control as to be impossible). They will cover the player fines if Juve bend on the terms of an exit deal. The player? Rock meets hard place.