Are Notts Forest a bigger club than Everton?

[Exeter_Gently]

Morning Blues!

Delish

 

[The binman chronicles]

The European cup was HARDER to win back then. For starters you had to WIN the league and be bone fide CHAMPIONS. Then you had to play other CHAMPIONS in a knock out format, that had no safety nets, nor any other means of protection if a key player was injured or suspended.

That league they have created today is just meaningless tv entertainment.

Whilst I 100% agree the fact you have to win your own league decreased the chances, what I mean is once in there English clubs had a great chance of winning, as backed up by the 7 wins out of 9 before the ban. Those safety nets and allowing multiple clubs from the same country has significantly made it more difficult. Up to the quarter finals in the old competition was relatively straightforward, it would be a case of winning two ties and a final against okay level opposition. Now you're likely to face the big boys that have been fueled by years at drinking at the trough of CL money, for an outsider like Forest, Leicester or say us, it's nearly zero chance.

 

[chrismpw]

Whilst I 100% agree the fact you have to win your own league decreased the chances, what I mean is once in there English clubs had a great chance of winning, as backed up by the 7 wins out of 9 before the ban. Those safety nets and allowing multiple clubs from the same country has significantly made it more difficult. Up to the quarter finals in the old competition was relatively straightforward, it would be a case of winning two ties and a final against okay level opposition. Now you're likely to face the big boys that have been fueled by years at drinking at the trough of CL money, for an outsider like Forest, Leicester or say us, it's nearly zero chance.

You describe a major drawback with the current setup. Whichever team did well in the years where the tv league started have continued to do well because of the vast amounts of tv money. It's just not interesting anymore because its the same old, same old teams, based on tv wealth (and now oil states).

Honestly- who cares anymore.

 

[KaiserEFC]

It’s like two old blokes arguing at the urinal about who’s prostate is bigger.

 

[Number_25]

Worth remembering that Everton’s significance goes far beyond silverware. During the miners strike, our supporters and sections of the club showed real solidarity with working-class communities under immense pressure, organising collections, sending aid, and standing by the miners when others stayed silent.

That period saw Everton not only triumph on the pitch, but stand tall off it, reflecting the values of the people it represents.

By contrast, it’s hard to ignore Notts Forest’s role during the strike, the county stood apart from the national action, and to this day, there's a pride taken in that history whenever they face Welsh or Yorkshire clubs. It’s not just that they were seen as scabs, it’s the way it gets woven into a kind of identity, almost celebrated, which leaves a sour taste for many who remember what was at stake.

It's why the poverty chanting doesn't suprise me having heard them chant about the strikes for years when they were languishing in the third division.

To answer your question, we could be relegated to non league and still be bigger than them.

 

[Yarrgh]

It’s like two old blokes arguing at the urinal about who’s prostate is bigger.

with @chicoazul daring them to drop their trousers and put a finger up each other's backside.

 

[KaiserEFC]

with @chicoazul daring them to drop their trousers and put a finger up each other's backside.

Phwoar can’t be doing that at a working man’s club!

 

[If You Know Your History]

Next season, we will be getting 53k fans every week. What's more, to this day, only 4 clubs have won the league as many times as we have. We have also had more seasons in the top-flight (123) than any other club.

What Brian Clough did there was akin to what Ranieri did at Leicester, only much more impressive of course. But does it make them an enormous club? Possibly not.

Imagine Fulham being taken on by a brilliant maverick of a manager and winning the league and the European Cup over the course of a few years. Would that make them a bigger club than us? Of course not.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Going from possible Champions League to Europa Conference

Oof

Still, they’ve done well to get into Europe

Bittersweet as they say

 

[chicoazul]

With apparent news of Douglas Luis holding out for Notts Forest over Everton it made me wonder about this thread’s role again.

 

[Bluemersey]

If this really requires a thread then some shouldn't support this club. Forums getting unbearable tbh

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Can’t work it out.

Bigger in today's context means who plays in Europe and who was in the relegation dog fight in the previous season vs the upcoming season.

As much as what Everton supporters hate to admit it, that is how current football players look at where they want to go and play their football next season.

Hence why the all the "better" players that we are considering are waiting for "better" offers.

Sorry all, history means nothing.

 

[Thomasc]

If this really requires a thread then some shouldn't support this club. Forums getting unbearable tbh

Don’t take it too seriously

 

[Bluemersey]

Don’t take it too seriously

The forums become toxic mate, used to love a moan or too myself but lately it's become depressing. Creating threads for every soundbites is nuts

 

[14_dollars]

Their owner is certainly bigger.