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Good that the rest waited. An enjoyable stage all told. The steep climb towards the end didn't do as much damage as people expected.
davek
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That's lack of concentration which could be a result of tiredness.
Good move by Visma not to exploit the crash. They'd have got about half a minute but motivated UAE and Pogacar in particular.
Rita_Poon
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He was looking in the other direction and crossed a wheel, wasn't concentration, it was the unexpected pack movement to the right that did it. Racing incident. It was right not to attack with him on the deck fighting with his chain.
davek
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That's just another way of saying poor focus and judgement - could be tiredness or could be anxiousness.
Pogacar is there to be shot at for the next 10 days. He knows it too.
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £100m
No one has eyes in the back of their head, he's one of if not the most gifted bike rider of his generation, tiredness and anxiousness? nah, he was caught out by a touch of wheels as the pack jumped right and he was taking care of his left. Fortunately he didn't do any significant damage. That he was back in the saddle and in the pack again (granted they rightly didn't attack) shows the strength and calmness of the man.
On a side note, that everyone in the peleton is outstripping armstrongs best suggests to me a new designer performance enhancer is in play. Took 20 years for Bolt to catch up with Johnson. Flo jo still not bettered. It's there, but they aren't testing specific for something they don't know of.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Lack of concentration as Visma ask him question after question now. He's looking and sounding a bit rattled to me. And that was a heavy fall he took today, so let's see how that effects him.
He'll more than likely want to demonstrate tomorrow that the fall has had no effect. But I dont see him putting Vingegaar to the sword in any climb this TdF. And Ilm increasingly confident that JV and Visma have his number in the high category climbs to come. Will it be enough to get back the time Vingegaar surrendered to Pogacar in the TT? Maybe not. But Pogacar will know he's been in a bike race if he does prevail.
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £100m
If you'd been watching last week, there were at least two heavy falls, that were Heavy. Todays was a scuff and go. He knew how to fall and recover, hence no leading arm to break the fall and collarbone. Experience.
The rest is pure projection, you'd be interesting casting mind reads on boris and truss, reckon you'd produce a few belters.
salmon fingers
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What i like about Pogacar is that he loves to race whether its TDF or giro or monument races he is always looking to win. Jonas V is a great rider and I can't understand why he dosent race in the monuments and his cautious race tactics don't make for excitement he is the best cyclist in the mountains and iam sure he will attack. My fav cyclist is mathieu VP him and Pogi make the monuments very exciting
The rider who crashed into him has apologised, saying it was his fault.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He said he went with the drift from left to right across the stretch of road. Pogacar crashed into him. He (Pog) was not tracking that body of riders in the group he was in. There must have been 10-15 riders ahead of him all moving left to right, but he was either looking down or the other way.
I'd say that was lack of focus - especially 3kms from home when riders needed to be vigilant. If it had happened 50km from the finish in poor conditions then maybe there's an excuse.
Today may or may not be important. But some day soon the major attacks will come. Visma were softening up Pogacar yesterday and again he didn't;t like it. Ild say Visma not taking advantage of Pogacar yesterday underlines their confidence they can take him on the HC climbs to come.
The road will ultimately decide. Today should give us an indicator of how things are. I'd imagine Pogacar will want to lay down a marker, both to show that he's not impacted by the crash and to put to bed the nonsense that Visma are crushing him mentally.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I dont think there's any doubt he'll try and do that. That'd be a classic move from him to try. He's pretty thin skinned IMO.
I have my doubts he can show Vingegaar a clean pair of heels in the mountains though; recent evidence suggest he cant put distance between himself and Jonas.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Sometimes those falls are worse. Less dramatic tumbles can deliver a lot of damage. Depends on the exact point of impact. Fall on the sharp edge of a hip and it can be very problematic.
Pogacar got off to the team bus ASAP with no comments yesterday. Must have been in some pain...or possibly embarrassment...or a combination of both.
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