Kneecap

Yay or nay

  • Yes

    Votes: 43 47.3%

  • No

    Votes: 36 39.6%

  • Cheese Groucho added this option as he doesn’t know who they are or what the issue is on toast

    Votes: 12 13.2%
  • Total voters
    91
PITA said:
Slight problem here - they aren’t musicians. So my question remains, what are they making money from?
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Proper old man shouts at cloud vibes here.

As I’ve said earlier in the thread, I’m not a huge fan of their music (it’s a bit Blackpool Grime Media in Irish form) but there’s plenty of younger people who enjoy them.

They do put on a fantastic live show as well. The energy was off the scale tbf.

They might not be live musicians (no idea how much input they have in the recording/production of the music) but they are songwriters. So I’d say the money comes from publishing rights, live gigging, merchandise sales and to a lesser extent streaming.
 

PITA said:
Agreed. If they actually had any talent I might be interested.

Are they (dare I say it) monetising the conflict to hide behind their lack of.
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Talent is a bit of a weird one in punk leaning music I guess, Crass for example weren't great musicians but are seen as the one of the best punk bands cos they stayed true to their values and continuously disrupted things (mainly out of their own pocket). You could argue bob vylan are closer to that.

These guys released a film with an a-lister (although I really enjoyed the film), are playing on main stages and arenas. They aren't really saying anything nuanced too, just holding up a flag now and again. They really aren't that interesting in any way
 
coollino said:
Talent is a bit of a weird one in punk leaning music I guess, Crass for example weren't great musicians but are seen as the one of the best punk bands cos they stayed true to their values and continuously disrupted things (mainly out of their own pocket). You could argue bob vylan are closer to that.

These guys released a film with an a-lister (although I really enjoyed the film), are playing on main stages and arenas. They aren't really saying anything nuanced too, just holding up a flag now and again. They really aren't that interesting in any way
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I don't really get the energy behind applying music snob focus on a group which are drawing attention to something so serious

Are people's personal opinions, often stated pretentiously or as if fact, as important as the bigger picture

"genocide is the story". It's a simple and important message with a current working example involving themselves to prove it. I wish more artists were more vocal about it. Every voice counts

I worked at HMV for 7yrs and was probably a music snob myself in some ways, so of the top tier pretentious ones I have met a lot. I'd be embarrassed to be waffling on with my self important opinion on this bands merit when the story as they say is over there and is horrifying.

Hell I'd even give The 1975 a pass if they starting sticking the boot into Netinyahu
 
bicycleheader said:
I don't really get the energy behind applying music snob focus on a group which are drawing attention to something so serious

Are people's personal opinions, often stated pretentiously or as if fact, as important as the bigger picture

"genocide is the story". It's a simple and important message with a current working example involving themselves to prove it. I wish more artists were more vocal about it. Every voice counts

I worked at HMV for 7yrs and was probably a music snob myself in some ways, so of the top tier pretentious ones I have met a lot. I'd be embarrassed to be waffling on with my self important opinion on this bands merit when the story as they say is over there and is horrifying.

Hell I'd even give The 1975 a pass if they starting sticking the boot into Netinyahu
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music snob? i said the quality of music doesn't matter much in punk. my post is about the contradictions that can happen once you get bigger in the field you are in, the music has nothing to do with my post
 
coollino said:
music snob? i said the quality of music doesn't matter much in punk. my post is about the contradictions that can happen once you get bigger in the field you are in, the music has nothing to do with my post
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True, remove the music snob part and keep pretentious

As I don't know how else to read "they really arent that interesting anyway" or you're bored of them or whatever

I wouldn't even pay attention if it was just a general music thread, but they currently are headline news and have their own thread for a particular reason and the piping up with "oh those guys are crap" or not interesting/boring or whatever as sole input when the general topic around them is mainly the core point of "genocide is the story" just seems very very weak.

As I said, I don't understand the energy behind such input really

At least @Bryan+ seemed to be saying he doesn't agree with their message, and was going on about "what about Oct 7th" whilst calling them crap
 


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