Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread



Lanolin said:
It's nothing to do with age, it's just whether he's good enough. I haven't seen enough of him over the last 12 months or so to know but ordinarily you wouldn't be too keen on a keeper who was dropped from his midtable league one team at one point last season having to play a load of PL games.
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Pickford was our no 1 from the moment we signed him, but I don't think we all knew he was good enough. He still had room for a great deal of improvement but we stuck with him. Hopefully if we're less s**te moving forwards we won't be quite so reliant on Pickford every season and can afford to give a chance to Tyrer or whoever as his potential successor in a few years time.
 
SLAVEN BILIC said:
For all intents and purposes we were a whisker away from Tete and not far off signing Delap. We were deep in discussions early after the season for 2 players. Missing out on those two makes the recruitment team start work on their secondary targets. One of which is Barry. Not to mention we had another CB lined up and were ready to pull the trigger but Moyes said no and thought it was better to offer Keane a new deal (rightly or wrongly). So again that’s another we had done a load of work on that didn’t materialise.

Another thing to factor in is that this recruitment team etc have literally walked in the door when the season finished. Any targets or negotiations we had under Thelwell and his team have probably been scrapped and we’re starting again.
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Who did Moyes reject (genuine question, missed that :lol:)? Delap and Tete were decent starts at a good time imho - and again, even if we'd signed them, the contracts start 1st of July anyway, so it's not like it'd be a massive difference towards PSR as it'll be in the new period. We didn't anyway because reasons and probably not wanting to give mediocre players huge contracts, but still, it was an attempt.

Didn't we keep some of the scouts and data team? And regardless of that, any scout worth their salt would come in with some knowledge of players/regions/etc., it's not like they're computers and their hard drives are wiped as soon as they come to us like.
BlueBarrow said:
Think that a number of our incomings are going to be loans mate. Generally those players only become available after their parent clubs have done their business. Those deals generally occur later in the window. Don't think that there is too much to panic about yet , although it would be nice for some moves to be imminent.
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They probably will be, even though there's a limit to how many of those we can have, and we still can't afford to keep it to the last week as before - as I said earlier, it'll be the same story of "they gotta bed in first" and they'll play for the first time in October/November, then feature rarely because "well they're only loans". I'd be glad to be wrong but it's been this way for ages now, and I've grown to expect it.

It's not panic stations, never said it was, but it's also not the progress we hoped for either is my point - currently we're dealing like we've always dealt with things, there's nothing new so far. I hope I'm wrong and I'll gladly eat humble pie if we activate in the next few weeks, but I don't think it's unreasonable to be sceptical about how it's going to go, based on early signs, in what is arguably the most important and biggest 'statement' transfer period we're in.

I guess Barry being 22 is a good sign at least, as if it was Dyche we'd have done what Davek wants and gone for Chris Wood for an obscene sum*. To go with Branthwaite's contract, they would be great statements that we both want to keep our best players and build for the future. And it's also a great statement that we're finally looking slightly further than a 50 mile radius I guess :lol:


* anything more than 1m is obscene for Chris Wood.
 

COYB75 said:
Pickford was our no 1 from the moment we signed him, but I don't think we all knew he was good enough. He still had room for a great deal of improvement but we stuck with him. Hopefully if we're less s**te moving forwards we won't be quite so reliant on Pickford every season and can afford to give a chance to Tyrer or whoever as his potential successor in a few years time.
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I say this every time these things come up but we might not have known whether he was good enough, but clearly the professionals who make these decisions for a living did.

In it's most simple form the point is you don't just give every player in the world a go to see how good they are, you decide whether they're good enough based on all the data you've collected and the opinions you've formed from watching them in training and games over a long period. Either Tyrer will be good enough to be a PL number one or he won't, whether fans see him play in a pre-season friendly or not won't change which one is the case.
 
DualityNSNO said:
Who did Moyes reject (genuine question, missed that :lol:)? Delap and Tete were decent starts at a good time imho - and again, even if we'd signed them, the contracts start 1st of July anyway, so it's not like it'd be a massive difference towards PSR as it'll be in the new period. We didn't anyway because reasons and probably not wanting to give mediocre players huge contracts, but still, it was an attempt.

Didn't we keep some of the scouts and data team? And regardless of that, any scout worth their salt would come in with some knowledge of players/regions/etc., it's not like they're computers and their hard drives are wiped as soon as they come to us like.

They probably will be, even though there's a limit to how many of those we can have, and we still can't afford to keep it to the last week as before - as I said earlier, it'll be the same story of "they gotta bed in first" and they'll play for the first time in October/November, then feature rarely because "well they're only loans". I'd be glad to be wrong but it's been this way for ages now, and I've grown to expect it.

It's not panic stations, never said it was, but it's also not the progress we hoped for either is my point - currently we're dealing like we've always dealt with things, there's nothing new so far. I hope I'm wrong and I'll gladly eat humble pie if we activate in the next few weeks, but I don't think it's unreasonable to be sceptical about how it's going to go, based on early signs, in what is arguably the most important and biggest 'statement' transfer period we're in.

I guess Barry being 22 is a good sign at least, as if it was Dyche we'd have done what Davek wants and gone for Chris Wood for an obscene sum*. To go with Branthwaite's contract, they would be great statements that we both want to keep our best players and build for the future. And it's also a great statement that we're finally looking slightly further than a 50 mile radius I guess :lol:


* anything more than 1m is obscene for Chris Wood.
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