2024/25 Michael Vincent Keane




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What about his performances in the last 4 games?

When we had a competent and good man manager in place.
Was Moyes not there when Keane ran out against city ?

I do agree Moyes has got a lot more out of him than Others , I just think it feels like we’re airbrushing the laundry list of mistakes that went before that .
 

What about his performances in the last 4 games?

When we had a competent and good man manager in place.

And zero pressure. He’s got a history of turning up when he wants a new deal with some half decent performances at the back end of a season.

He’s turned in stinkers under Koeman Silva Ancelotti Benitez Lampard Dyche. The manager isn’t the issue.
 
Was Moyes not there when Keane ran out against city ?

I do agree Moyes has got a lot more out of him than Others , I just think it feels like we’re airbrushing the laundry list of mistakes that went before that .
He’s not great but as a probable 4th choice CB I guess I can live with it for a year.
 

No mate. It only matters what he did in the first 4 performances where the whole team were gash.

That he helped us win the last 3 games, keeping 2 clean sheets and scoring a goal obviously doesn’t matter.
I said earlier, he made 5 appearances under Moyes and we won 4 of them. As much as I don’t rate him particularly highly and would obviously want better, I see the reasoning and he isn’t the bogeyman that loses every game like people make out.

Any team that plays their 4th choice CB is going to be weakened, but Moyes gets the best out of people and is good at the man management side.

The other side is, he will surely know the general feeding about him and he is still prepared to sign another year. People comment about his mental strength, I’d say that shows some big kahunas
 
I said earlier, he made 5 appearances under Moyes and we won 4 of them. As much as I don’t rate him particularly highly and would obviously want better, I see the reasoning and he isn’t the bogeyman that loses every game like people make out.

Any team that plays their 4th choice CB is going to be weakened, but Moyes gets the best out of people and is good at the man management side.
no real disagreement with any of this
 
Unless you're saying he goes around deliberately hobbling the other players I really don't know what point you're trying to make. Yes, people get injured and your back ups have to play, we know that. If we don't bring in or right back or we do and they get injured and Coleman or Patterson has to play at right back it will be an issue, if Pickford gets injured and Tyrer or someone like Angus Gunn has to play it will be an issue, if Mykolenko gets injured and we have to play err... nobody at left back it will be an issue. Keane is no more of an issue than any of those things, it's not ideal by any means but it doesn't deserve the mass cryarsing it's getting from some.

Yes all those things are issues that need addressing if we want to improve. Surely the aim is to improve the squad. We had an opportunity to do so here, a big wage was going off the wage bill and we could have brought in someone that could have bc challenged the other CBs, provided a better standard when playing, and maybe could have even covered full back or defensive mid (Keane can’t cover either). Perhaps we may even have used the spot for developing a younger CB who would bring value in the future.

Instead we just rolled a year on passed up the opportunity. I know we don’t have control over what the club does but people calling it a sensible move or that they’re happy with it, really? I disagree.
 

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