2024/25 James Garner

[blueboy72]

I think he’s crap, proper anonymous half the time and weak. Reminds me of Tom Davies.

If we don’t sell him this summer, he will be moved on next summer, with a few others like McNeil.

 

[Mr Happy]

If we don’t sell him this summer, he will be moved on next summer, with a few others like McNeil.

You what ? Sell him ? You seen our squad ?? Honestly you must live in cloud cuckoo land mate. I still don't get how folk can not see the worth of having the like of McNeill in the squad.

 

[Bilko]

Garner manages to play 90 mins of football and I never notice he’s on the pitch.

Ooh that's very harsh....!!!!

 

[blueblue]

Ooh that's very harsh....!!!!

Shows a lack of understanding of what the player does on the pitch as well.

 

[blueboy72]

You what ? Sell him ? You seen our squad ?? Honestly you must live in cloud cuckoo land mate. I still don't get how folk can not see the worth of having the like of McNeill in the squad.

It’s called not being good enough mate and us moving on as a club and team, and some of us as a fan base. Relegation fodder need to be a thing of the past
I didn’t say McNeil this summer, because we have a lot to do. But he will be on the bench this season barring injuries. And will go next summer

Garner is a bang average player and has a year left, I’d rather sell than give him a new deal, but again with a lot to do he may get a new deal, he also won’t be at Everton long

 

[caliblue]

Garner manages to play 90 mins of football and I never notice he’s on the pitch.

Many teams, if not all, we play have a match plan that basically focuses on stopping Garner getting the ball and let as much as possible go through Gueye. When we try to play out from the back, they make sure to position players between Garner and the ball while giving Gueye lots of space. We passing the ball to Gueye is the trigger for when opponents will press.

None of this will change if we replace Garner. Teams will continue to block passing lines and try to funnel the ball to Gueye. As it is very effective.

That doesn't mean we can't get better than Garner, but as long as opponents do their homework, we shouldn't expect a Garner replacement to be much involved.

 

[pfim]

If we don’t sell him this summer, he will be moved on next summer, with a few others like McNeil.

If we don't sell him this summer, he walks away next summer. Needs an extension this summer to protect the asset.

He's a squad player, he'll eventually be moved on for someone better. But I doubt it will be this summer.

 

[Pabbers]

Its all got a bit OTT with this Greenwood stuff, and IMO poeple just trying to hard to be offended or trying to farm some moral likes on-line.

We ALL have people around us who have done things wrong, and also people we work with that we dont know about their pasts....

Fact is, Greenwood never got charged with anything, and the female in that situation has moved on and forgiven / forgiven him, along with her family, then we all need to move on with our lives too.

No way can any of you lot be more outraged than the girl and her family.....yet they all seem to have moved on, WITH Greenwood in their lives.

Thats life i'm afraid, and you are naive to think anything else.

 

[Mr Happy]

It’s called not being good enough mate and us moving on as a club and team, and some of us as a fan base. Relegation fodder need to be a thing of the past
I didn’t say McNeil this summer, because we have a lot to do. But he will be on the bench this season barring injuries. And will go next summer

Garner is a bang average player and has a year left, I’d rather sell than give him a new deal, but again with a lot to do he may get a new deal, he also won’t be at Everton long

Talking wham mate. You've not a clue who'll come and go. My point is we're down to bare bones. We can't throw money at it. Garner is a capable squad player. I get he's not fashionable but very much needed. I maintain the same stance over McNeill.

 

[thebluenosebolt]

I would give Garner a bit of a reprieve until he's had an actual football manager in charge of him for a year. I couldn't imagine working with Dyche yet still knowing how to position myself on the pitch, who to pass to or how to play. Moyes will give him very simple directions and I recon he will flourish in this new learning environment.

 

[FinchFarmBlue]

I would give Garner a bit of a reprieve until he's had an actual football manager in charge of him for a year. I couldn't imagine working with Dyche yet still knowing how to position myself on the pitch, who to pass to or how to play. Moyes will give him very simple directions and I recon he will flourish in this new learning environment.

Another that was injured for a fair while last season too. He can pick a pass just needs players around him on same wavelength. Consistent messages from Moyes and his coaching team will help as you say.

 

[blueboy72]

Talking wham mate. You've not a clue who'll come and go. My point is we're down to bare bones. We can't throw money at it. Garner is a capable squad player. I get he's not fashionable but very much needed. I maintain the same stance over McNeill.

Can’t throw money at it? We’ve already spent 40mil and it’s just the 3rd of July
Moyes wants 2 wingers and 2 midfielders. McNeil and garner will be on the bench, we will come back to this in 12 months

 

[Eggs]

….i think Garner is a talented footballer who looks to retain the ball when he has possession. It takes a skill set to do that as well as belief in your own ability. Osman was magnificent at it, it goes under the radar because they make the difficult look it easy. Garner is not Oman’s level but it’s what he attempts and it’s important we have players like that.

The other point I’d make is our tempo is better when he’s in the team. We are better when we play with tempo.

Good footballer is Garner, important squad player.

 

[Mr Happy]

….i think Garner is a talented footballer who looks to retain the ball when he has possession. It takes a skill set to do that as well as belief in your own ability. Osman was magnificent at it, it goes under the radar because they make the difficult look it easy. Garner is not Oman’s level but it’s what he attempts and it’s important we have players like that.

The other point I’d make is our tempo is better when he’s in the team. We are better when we play with tempo.

Good footballer is Garner, important squad player.

I struggle to understand how others can't see this.

 

[Cameron Manning]

It’s called not being good enough mate and us moving on as a club and team, and some of us as a fan base. Relegation fodder need to be a thing of the past
I didn’t say McNeil this summer, because we have a lot to do. But he will be on the bench this season barring injuries. And will go next summer

Garner is a bang average player and has a year left, I’d rather sell than give him a new deal, but again with a lot to do he may get a new deal, he also won’t be at Everton long

I think whenever McNeill is fit he will be one of the first names on Moyes’ team sheet and not just for free kicks and corners.