2024/25 David Moyes


Eggs said:
….not forgetting the RS were knocked out by Plymouth who have just been relegated from the Championship. These cups are there to be won, sometimes you’re name is on it.

I think we did the double over Palace this season and they won the cup.
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We had our best chance under Martinez. Lukaku penalty against a poor United in the semi final and then Palace awaiting in the final. I think that was arguably a bigger opportunity than beating that Chelsea team in 09 or beating Klopp’s Liverpool in the league cup if we’d made it past City. Moyes gets a lot of heat for the 09 final but for me Martinez and Lukaku really did drop the ball on that one.
 
Saint Domingo said:
We had our best chance under Martinez. Lukaku penalty against a poor United in the semi final and then Palace awaiting in the final. I think that was arguably a bigger opportunity than beating that Chelsea team in 09 or beating Klopp’s Liverpool in the league cup if we’d made it past City. Moyes gets a lot of heat for the 09 final but for me Martinez and Lukaku really did drop the ball on that one.
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It was a defining moment for both.

Lukaku was our best striker since Lineker, but like Lineker is defined by his inability to ruthlessly score in the moment that counted: that day at Wembley for him, at Oxford for Lineker. A harsh judgement? Yes, but that's life at the top. Both were great players - Lineker an all-time great - but they both share a sense of unfulfuilled expectation in our history.

Martinez might have saved his job with a win. He was already set for the sack, but a Cup win would have given Kenwright all the ammo he needed to stay Moshiri's execution. "What a manager!"
 


MikeH72 said:
Palace’s cup run was:

Stockport
Doncaster
Millwall
Fulham
Aston Villa
Man City

It’s all well and good saying that we need to put all our focus onto winning a cup, but you’re at the mercy of the draw. Palace pull Liverpool away instead of Stockport at home out of the pot and they’re out in the 3rd round.

You need lots of luck to win a cup if you’re, well, basically not Liverpool. I think they’re the only team that are capable of beating everyone else home or away on any given day.
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Totally agree, it's unlikely we'll win a cup, just like it was unlikely that Palace would. All I'm saying is that we shouldn't just jib it off and assume we can't win one.
 

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