ds3000
Player Valuation: £950k
Very true, sir
Homepage Article Goodison Park to become the permanent home of Everton Women
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pfim
Player Valuation: £40m
I don't think you base your assumptions on what the game looks like now.
Investors are drawn to the women's game because it has low barriers to entry and a lot of growth potential.
AS Roma women's team won four or five trophies after TFG took over. They've spent in January and I'm sure they'll recruit more now in the summer. I don't think it's lip service when they say they're committed to the women's side.
Kever10
Player Valuation: £20m
Park end would be 1st id get rid of. Least historical, takes up so much space and has more space behind it.
Following that, the main stand, again, 2nd newest and again, more space.
Keep the historical Leitch stands, remove seats with worst views, ie the ones near the back of lower tiers, use that space for improved concourses, as they have less space to expand outside the footprint. Potentially, eventually reroof them, but essentially keep the L shaped structure as.
Create a new, modernised L shaped structure in place of main and park end with enhanced facilities and changing spaces etc, perhaps incorporate Everton office space, museum etc, and any of the community facilities they have discussed. Could include a hotel, with views of the pitch on 1 side and looking over to stanley park and the lake on the other. As ive said before, you could even incorporate a new footbridge from the park across walton lane to the site.
You can keep statues and Everton brick wall, Gates etc where they are, keep or convert the Everton shop, and still have stadium tours of both grounds. If they are looking to host big events at BMD, they could have smaller events ar Goodison, the Bellew boxing match worked well, why not have additional events like this as well?
Personally, i love the idea, and the fact it will still remain the oldest ground in the country is not something id willingly give up so easily.
Following that, the main stand, again, 2nd newest and again, more space.
Keep the historical Leitch stands, remove seats with worst views, ie the ones near the back of lower tiers, use that space for improved concourses, as they have less space to expand outside the footprint. Potentially, eventually reroof them, but essentially keep the L shaped structure as.
Create a new, modernised L shaped structure in place of main and park end with enhanced facilities and changing spaces etc, perhaps incorporate Everton office space, museum etc, and any of the community facilities they have discussed. Could include a hotel, with views of the pitch on 1 side and looking over to stanley park and the lake on the other. As ive said before, you could even incorporate a new footbridge from the park across walton lane to the site.
You can keep statues and Everton brick wall, Gates etc where they are, keep or convert the Everton shop, and still have stadium tours of both grounds. If they are looking to host big events at BMD, they could have smaller events ar Goodison, the Bellew boxing match worked well, why not have additional events like this as well?
Personally, i love the idea, and the fact it will still remain the oldest ground in the country is not something id willingly give up so easily.
That's a shout mate.
GoldenToffee
Player Valuation: £70m
David Brent at Goodison Park today talking to Chongy.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
Investor's might be committed but the paying coustmers are another matter. There's ambition and then there's delusion. The woman's team is averaging 2k attendance a game. A jump to 8k would be massively impressive but would still leave more then two thirds of Goodison empty even if we reduced to 25k.
JLW
Player Valuation: £70m
Each to their own, i just dont agree with the decision."In 1920, the Dick, Kerr Ladies played St Helens Ladies at Goodison Park in front of a crowd of 53,000, a record that would last for just under 100 years. Feels extremely appropriate that Everton should choose to make it the new home of their Women’s Team. Superb from The Toffees."
Half the Euro winning England team came through Everton. Currently they have some cracking players, and repeatedly smash the RS everywhere. I've watched women's games there with mates, with my daughters, it obviously doesn't feel the same as cheering on the 1st team, but feels the same as cheering on the u21's- still Everton
I like the fact it will still be used for an Everton football team.
I have nothing against womens football i just dont have any interest in it like i have no interest in Everton youth football.
I didnt want to go to BMD for the test events for that reason alone.
Going to watch Everton to me means going to goodison (Or now BMD) with a packed house, anything else is not Everton to me.
It doent give me the love, the hate, the nerves, and all the other emotions that go with it and thats why i love going the match.
I think Goodison deserved one final showdown (This Sunday) for then the doors to be closed forever.
Its all a bit weird for me, all season the countdown, the emotions building for Sunday, the flags being made, etc...
Yet we can all still go in August probably to watch the women with a capacity of about half the park end.
Aye just sending a snap of the tweet mate
Just copied an image ffs
The game does exist, according to this very detailed wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick,_Kerr_Ladies_4–0_St_Helens_Ladies
pfim
Player Valuation: £40m
Investors typically try to invest in things that make money? Nothing is a sure thing, but I think TFG have a good track record. I don't think they're delusional, as you suggest. No, they won't be drawing 39k any time soon, but 15k within 5 years? I don't think that's impossible or frankly all that fanciful.
NWSL attendances are 11k/match and they have a better product (at the moment) than WSL. An NWSL franchise just sold for $110 million.
The European clubs have a huge advantage over NWSL clubs at the academy levels, it won't be long until they're producing better and more players than the US and therefore offering a better product.
cjuk87
Player Valuation: £10m
I've never been to a women's match, got zero interest in it. But....
If that inspires more young girls to want to play football and play at Goodison, it's a positive.
If it gives people who have never been to Goodison, an opportunity, it's a positive.
If it gives the women's league and youth teams a chance to grow, it's a positive.
If we can fiddle the books with it, it's a positive haha.
My son is 2 and has been on the tours twice, one of which, we played on the pitch for 30 mins. I haven't taken him a game yet, as I can't imagine having to leave 10 mins in, when he's wanting to run round or creating etc. But I'd happily trial him at the women's game, less people, less noise, less pressure. Then I'll take him a few times before he finally goes to Bramley Moore. Everyone wins (except my son, who's got to watch Everton)
If that inspires more young girls to want to play football and play at Goodison, it's a positive.
If it gives people who have never been to Goodison, an opportunity, it's a positive.
If it gives the women's league and youth teams a chance to grow, it's a positive.
If we can fiddle the books with it, it's a positive haha.
My son is 2 and has been on the tours twice, one of which, we played on the pitch for 30 mins. I haven't taken him a game yet, as I can't imagine having to leave 10 mins in, when he's wanting to run round or creating etc. But I'd happily trial him at the women's game, less people, less noise, less pressure. Then I'll take him a few times before he finally goes to Bramley Moore. Everyone wins (except my son, who's got to watch Everton)
Little Ralphy
Player Valuation: £15m
This is good news for the club, especially the women's side. I think the record transfer in women's football is just over £1m. It wouldn't cost too much to improve the side to compete.
The way the women's game is going and more and more young girls playing football, the fan bases will continue to grow. I know a lot of people here are saying they won't go to watch a womens game, but that's not necessarily the fanbase they are looking for anyway. When you go to women's games it's mostly familes in the crowd. It's a very different atmosphere as a result. For the men's game, people have their routines and go for a drink before getting to their seat on kick off. For the women's game because they're mostly families, people tend to get to the ground earlier and there's potential around that matchday experience.
I'd imagine they'll redevelop parts of the ground at some point as the facilities aren't there for families with the lack of toilets especially.
The way the women's game is going and more and more young girls playing football, the fan bases will continue to grow. I know a lot of people here are saying they won't go to watch a womens game, but that's not necessarily the fanbase they are looking for anyway. When you go to women's games it's mostly familes in the crowd. It's a very different atmosphere as a result. For the men's game, people have their routines and go for a drink before getting to their seat on kick off. For the women's game because they're mostly families, people tend to get to the ground earlier and there's potential around that matchday experience.
I'd imagine they'll redevelop parts of the ground at some point as the facilities aren't there for families with the lack of toilets especially.
mightymoyes
Player Valuation: £70m
cos the stadium is crap and only holds just over 2k
15000 isn’t impossible but it is quite fanciful. That’s more than double the current league average and 8 times the current team average, it would be a big ask. While clubs here may have an advantage with academies you seem to be missing some rather enormous disadvantages we have, like the fact our population is a teeny bit smaller and the fact we have a much stronger and ingrained culture of men’s football.
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