Anyone read Duncs book yet?


I’ve been listening to it. I love Dunc and definitely see him as a true blue hero. His lack of self-knowledge is quite jarring for a man his age though. He’s still clearly fuming at what he sees as the injustice of going to jail, but then goes on to paint a picture of it being totally inevitable for years - detailing numerous assaults (that’s his word), where he pretty much always threw the first punch. Crazy that he says he was never the same player after sustaining an injury in one astonishingly brutal Wild West-style brawl whilst he was still at Dundee United. He never actually scored more goals than he did that season when he was 20, so maybe he’s right.
 
Exeter_Gently said:
One thing I've got from his recent media splurge is an admission his career was one littered with terrible decisions and selfish actions on and off the pitch.

There is also definitely a massive amount of regret there as well, because Duncan on his day was an absolute menace,and now he's coming to terms with the fact his career was massive missed opportunity.

While you're right Blues are sentimentalist an it's harsh to dig Blues out on it because he was a light during very dark times ,even if he didn't conduct himself in the way he knows he should have.

He was my biggest hero growing up, obviously am a bit older an wiser now but I'll always look up to him massively.
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I could never see his allure. Even on pitch. He was an exceptional header of the ball and he had a decent left foot, but the bulk of his time at Everton was knocking down long balls punted up to him for 'second ball' challenges.

Just a nothing player who scored against Liverpool and United and swung his shirt round his head.

And I've heard this "He was the only hero for my generation" stuff a lot. I dont buy that. Kids growing up in that generation had the likes of Kanchelskis, Southall (still), Amokachi, Limpar - and in fact that whole team that won the FA Cup - to look up to.
 

davek said:
I could never see his allure. Even on pitch. He was an exceptional header of the ball and he had a decent left foot, but the bulk of his time at Everton was knocking down long balls punted up to him for 'second ball' challenges.

Just a nothing player who scored against Liverpool and United and swung his shirt round his head.

And I've heard this "He was the only hero for my generation" stuff a lot. I dont buy that. Kids growing up in that generation had the likes of Kanchelskis, Southall (still), Amokachi, Limpar - and in fact that whole team that won the FA Cup - to look up to.
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Ferguson was part of the FA cup team?

Even right up until the Quarters against Newcastle?

While I loved Kanchelskis,Amo and Limpar they were only at the club for a quick cup of tea,bar obviously Neville.

The ink wasn't even wet on Kanchelskis's contract and he was off.
 
Exeter_Gently said:
Ferguson was part of the FA cup team?

Even right up until the Quarters against Newcastle?

While I loved Kanchelskis,Amo and Limpar they were only at the club for a quick cup of tea,bar obviously Neville.

The ink wasn't even wet on Kanchelskis's contract and he was off.
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Yes, but my point was he wasn't;t exclusively a hero for that generation.

Kids in the 90s had more heros than kids in the 70s and early 80s had, that's for sure.

So there's no rationalisation for saying "we only had 'Dunc' as a hero we could look to".
 

Exeter_Gently said:
Ferguson was part of the FA cup team?

Even right up until the Quarters against Newcastle?

While I loved Kanchelskis,Amo and Limpar they were only at the club for a quick cup of tea,bar obviously Neville.

The ink wasn't even wet on Kanchelskis's contract and he was off.
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Dunc was the bench in 95 if my memory is right - he came on early enough in the second half - i think it was something to do with fitness at the time and to be fair Rideout and the team were in decent form.

The reason people love Dunc is why they love Richarlison over someone like DCL, Cahill maybe over an Arteta - they led from the front, gave no quarter or respect to any opposition and represented the fanbase on the pitch and dragged the club by the scruff of neck in good and bad times, there also remains a genuine care and love for the club.

Every kid deserves a hero, elsewise what's the point.
 
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Neiler said:
Dunc was the bench in 95 if my memory is right - he came on early enough in the second half - i think it was something to do with fitness at the time and to be fair Rideout and the team were in decent form.
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He was a bit part player in that cup run, who's contribution was an inconsequential 4th goal in a 5-0 rout of Norwich in the 5th Round.

There were plenty of hero's for the kids of the early to mid 90s to look to besides him. That 'only hero we had' myth needs nailing.
 
Always the debate around legend when it comes to Ferguson.

Semantics.

For me, there's not been a single Everton player who has started their first game for the club after I was born that's an Everton "legend"

And I've got some grey hair and a bad back.

He's an Everton icon, and one of very, very few for a generation of Everton fans.
 

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