Andy my mate I've definitely had a ban off you for less... hahaha
Point me in that direction mate, I often warn but, rarely ban… totting up warnings will provoke a ban
Listen...just for clarity am not for the takeover. Am just looking to add balance. Absolutely everything Blues have been fed is negative,don't think it healthy.
Right ok...consider this a warning. Pack it in.Point me in that direction mate, I often warn but, rarely ban… totting up warnings will provoke a ban
I'd suggest that most fans of most clubs are unhappy with their owners. At least we are starting off with 777 under no illusions.
I suppose that's true.
Tony’s Carp
Player Valuation: £40m
But with respect, while yourself and the two Pauls continually tell us there are other parties…no actual evidence is out there as to their existence, who they are or if they’d be better.
I understand that confidences can’t be broken and maybe some players in this prefer to lurk in the shadows but people can only believe what they can see. At the moment it’s all a bit “bird at another school, trust me, she’s gorgeous”.
It’s clear you don’t want this to go ahead, in a perfect world none of us would, but people are looking for objective facts not opinions stated as facts.
ForeverEverton
Player Valuation: £40m
Who are these "richest people in the world"?
Absolute rubbish, their money was being borrowed (Loans) from :-
ACAP and Ken King which has now been withdrawn, ACAP had their credit rating downgraded due to their dealings with 777.
777re - Their re-insurance company which has been downgraded twice in the last 6 months due to their 777 football club link.
Oligarch Oleg Boyko - 777 are in court with Boyko who is looking to put a restraining order on 777.
Look at the London Lions basketball team, lost £10m and will go out of business next season.
Ferguson1878
Player Valuation: £25m
But everything coming out about these is negative be different if some good things could be dug up about them
They just smell bad and we don't need any more bad smells around the club.
Its all a bit murky to draw conclusions on this news for me.
Best we can do is speculate - no one knows the conidiations, but the fact seems to be that there are some red flags 777 haven't been able to satisfy the PL and concerns exist, the conditions may be procedural and attainable, they might be out there in terms of proving funds etc - no body knows.
I'm wholly against these cowboys, for many of the reasons stated, but i imagine we are coming up to a cash call that may force this is issue one way or another at the start of April- maybe this is an extension of limbo to string along and maintain funding or force Moshiri into a decision one way or the other, if 777 meet the cash call it will take us pretty much up to the end of the season, close to the window and a different way of being able to raise funds.
Best we can do is speculate - no one knows the conidiations, but the fact seems to be that there are some red flags 777 haven't been able to satisfy the PL and concerns exist, the conditions may be procedural and attainable, they might be out there in terms of proving funds etc - no body knows.
I'm wholly against these cowboys, for many of the reasons stated, but i imagine we are coming up to a cash call that may force this is issue one way or another at the start of April- maybe this is an extension of limbo to string along and maintain funding or force Moshiri into a decision one way or the other, if 777 meet the cash call it will take us pretty much up to the end of the season, close to the window and a different way of being able to raise funds.
ForeverEverton
Player Valuation: £40m
I agree, The Esk spent years pointing out how bad Kenwright and Moshiri were for this club, to the pointhe and a group of supporters started the 27 campaign which got vile abuse from moronic idiots that clapped Kenwright whenever he came on the GP screen, yet it has all been proven correct and all the people that argued the case for BK, villified the 27 campaign and Moshiri look a bit stupid now.
I agreed with him on that and I agree with him on this.... 777 will finish the job of sinking Everton, picking up where BK and Moshiri have left off.
Moderatelywarmwater
Player Valuation: £8m
I mean, can it be any worse than Moshiri? Hard to imagine.
But we’ve seen that their clubs give loans to other clubs and money goes in and out like water.
We need the absurd debt we have refinanced into a long term deal at reasonable rates. That’s step one. That will help.
Proper recruitment? That will help.
But we’re in really dire straights financially, we’ve got 99 problems and on the pitch ain’t one. They’ve got a dreadful record of ownership when we need a near miracle.
Well I've just put up a positive article from Forbes and it was shot down straight away.
The fans have made their mind up before they're through the door,which is fine...but I'll always reserve judgement on anything till I see what the results are like.
Allow me to express my thoughts on this post…
I would suggest that Esk, Paul Brown and the others are trying hard not to create division - don’t laugh or mock, bear me out - by bringing to our attention and highlighting the shortfalls of the 777 approach for our club, and the folly of the now largely absentee majority shareholder in entertaining their approach AND suggesting 777 are the best future for our club.
The evidence piling up against 777 cannot be ignored or brushed under a carpet, so the need for Moshiri to end it and open negotiations with other parties is paramount.
Other parties will naturally need to satisfy the PL rules and regulations on being fit and proper prospective owners, and satisfy the financial requirements eg audited accounts, business plans, sources of funding etc but, while the 777 approach has been dragging on this long, those other interested parties will surely have all their details ready to go at a moments notice.
I wholeheartedly agree that all Blues, and indeed fans of other clubs with financial issues hogging their headlines, need more time to concentrate on what we want to love again - watching Everton play and (hopefully) win games but, in order to do that we must have a whole lot more confidence in the quality of new ownership and the executive team that will be entrusted to take the club forward.
As for Esk ‘shouting his way into some form of position’ - I have known Paul personally now for nigh on ten years, have attended business meetings with him and in all that time, I have never, ever heard him raise his voice never mind shout.
And on your final point, if 777 were to be approved and take over the club, and things were to go South… it would almost certainly be too late for us fans to force the issue.
