6 + 2 Point Deductions

[DL100]

Yes of course.
I'm being arrogant here but games at home against Forest Blades Burnley and Forest??must surely see us over the line. Hopefully a bit of pressure off the players for the weekend. Onwards and upwards.

Have you seen our home record? those teams will be looking at us as a banker

 

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[The binman chronicles]

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Oh bugger. So we can expect the same again, only this time the mitigation on putting the brakes on will be slightly less limited. Going to be four points isn't it.

 

[Victus]

What do the club say?​

Everton did not hide their dismay with the Premier League and their belief that the organisation is making up regulatory practices as it goes along. A strong statement said: “The Premier League does not have guidelines which prevent a club being sanctioned for alleged breaches in financial periods which have already been subject to punishment, unlike other governing bodies, including the EFL. As a result, and because of the Premier League’s new commitment to deal with such matters ‘in-season’, the club is in a position where it has had no option but to submit a PSR calculation which remains subject to change, pending the outcome of the appeal. The club must now defend another Premier League complaint which includes the very same financial periods for which it has already been sanctioned, before that appeal has even been heard. The club takes the view that this results from a clear deficiency in the Premier League’s rules.” Everton also believe the £105m threshold is outdated and has not taken into account the inflation of wages and transfer fees over the past 10 years. The Premier League is changing the PSR rules in August.

What could the punishment be if found guilty?​

A fine, a transfer embargo or another points deduction. As Everton’s statement mentions, there is no rule to prevent double jeopardy in the Premier League. Therefore, the club could be docked points for a second time this season despite November’s 10-point punishment covering 75% of the period that the latest charge relates to. Everton have spoken with the Premier League about the risk of double jeopardy and bringing in measures to prevent it, as the EFL has done, but have been informed the final decision will rest with the commission that hears their latest case.


In regards to EFL rules and double jeopardy.

 

[Tony1985]

It’s not the end of the world, I expected 5 anyway. It gives us a bit of breathing room now, hopefully this will ease the players a bit and we start picking up a few wins.

 

[Kylito]

Betway have us at 10/1. If we're going down, it's not because you bet on it. Might as well make a few quid to soften the blow.

We could all bet on it and pool the winnings to save the club from financial ruin if it does come in

 

[Strumpet]

They accepted 2 of our 9 grounds of mitigation. Does anyone know if the Richarlison one was accepted? Hopefully not, as if it's been rejected it leaves Forest with no defence at all.

They only found in our favour for two things. First that the original IC should have followed EFL precedent. Second that the conclusion that EFC had been less than honest was incorrect. All other matters dismissed

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

we won’t

Are you thinking 10 matty

 

[matty1878]

So why ask the question "was he right"?

He's not right until that "obvious" detail is revealed.

i said so maybe he was right ffs lad

 

[ToffeeTim]

That original commission were utter charlatans who were quite clearly out to get us by the way. That much is certain now having read just some of this document..

I haven't read the doc yet but will later on

But from the summary it seems they were found to have made 2 legal errors?

 

[Walken]

I'm not sure it works like that. We have a team full of players that can do a job and grind out results in the premier league. But that doesn't necessarily transfer over to a good points total in the Championship where we would need to play like a top 4 team dominating possession home and away and looking to win every game. When I look at teams like Norwich and Ipswich play in the Championship they play really good attacking football. I don't think we can play like that with our current players. Where would the goals come from to achieve an 80 plus points total? We would need to bin all of the players that are useless in possession like Mylo, Godfrey, Gana, Harrison, Beto and get a more reliable finisher than DCL. There are loads of strikers that are better championship level strikers than Beto and DCL but would be less effective than them in the Premier League.

The place Sotons goals have come from, by having better players, its a grim league and just because we are in bad form its doesn't make us derby county

 

[Wat Tyler]

209. First, the benchmarks relied upon by the Club, notably the EFL P&S Rules and EFL Guidelines. The EFL Guidelines reflect the extent of the breach in money terms. They have a starting point of 12 points, but that is “top down”: excluding aggravating factors, it is the maximum deduction. The points deducted are reduced from 12 if the breach of the EFL upper loss threshold is less than £15m. For a breach of the EFL upper loss threshold of no more than £2m, and leaving aside “trend” (dealt with below), the points deduction is three points.210. Absent any particular mitigation, three is therefore the minimum points deduction prescribed by the EFL Guidelines, with an increase in that minimum to reflect extent of breach in money terms of one point per £2m-£2.5m up to a maximum of 12 points leaving aside any particular aggravation

That could be interesting for Forest

Why? How much did Forest breach it by?

 

[SwedishToffee]

Don’t think so

I think the premier league assumption that we deliberately misled them when we didn’t was one of the reasons.

Not sure of the 2nd point

The second was that "the commission was wrong not to take into account available benchmarks".

 

[DL100]

25 points, 12 games to play. 15 points to find.

The scenery has changed a tiny bit but we still need to turn up and beat Burnley, Sheff utd, Luton and Forest.

The equation for safety is as it was.

not a chance we win 5 more games this season so quite a few draws too are required.

 

[MisterJ]

Why not?

Because it could prejudice the hearing

If you have an appraisal with you boss, but you've just called him out as an idiot somewhere else, do you think he / she is going to be looking at you with any favour?