2022/23 Dele Alli

[TimHowardsBeardJuice]

I really thought he'd come good if deployed as a false nine.

He does have a knack for moving around the box.

I can only think that FL has seen stuff he doesn't like, now that he's had the player for several months.

Honestly don't know what to think. If it means not paying Spurs and being able to use that money for a forward, OK. Leaving aside what I just said about trusting FL/KT in the Gordon thread, we're running out of attackers.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Not arsed about getting a good fee, get about £7m and call it a day.

Probably depends what we have actually paid to date. I'm not sure anyone knows. Loaning him could be better than getting a small fee which actually creates a big loss on our books.

I have a feeling there's bound to be a clause for us binning him off before 20 games. Surely Levy would have insisted

 

[nsno-chris]

Oh

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Besiktas??? wtf

how the mighty have fallen

 

[MikeH72]

Probably depends what we have actually paid to date. I'm not sure anyone knows. Loaning him could be better than getting a small fee which actually creates a big loss on our books.

I have a feeling there's bound to be a clause for us binning him off before 20 games. Surely Levy would have insisted

Does it? We didn’t pay anything initially so if we haven’t paid them anything then sell him for £1m it would show as a profit on the books?

 

[ToffeeTim]

Does it? We didn’t pay anything initially so if we haven’t paid them anything then sell him for £1m it would show as a profit on the books?

If we've paid more than we sell we crystalise a loss.

if we loan, we save wages, his book value reduces by a year's worth of amortisation and then we can sell for less without making a loss.

But no one knows what we have paid. If it's genuinely nothing then anything is profit. I just doubt Levy would allow us a get out for free after under 20 games.

 

[dulle]

If we sell him , a large part of the fee goes to Spurs, I reckon.

 

[MikeH72]

If we've paid more than we sell we crystalise a loss.

if we loan, we save wages, his book value reduces by a year's worth of amortisation and then we can sell for less without making a loss.

But no one knows what we have paid.

But if we’ve paid anything for him and then loan him out for the next 2 years and he leaves on a free, that’s a loss too?

 

[nsno-chris]

If we've paid more than we sell we crystalise a loss.

if we loan, we save wages, his book value reduces by a year's worth of amortisation and then we can sell for less without making a loss.

But no one knows what we have paid. If it's genuinely nothing then anything is profit. I just doubt Levy would allow us a get out for free after under 20 games.

Wasn’t it zero, I mean it was heavily reported.

They wanted rid

 

[ToffeeTim]

But if we’ve paid anything for him and then loan him out for the next 2 years and he leaves on a free, that’s a loss too?

No

Your book value is nil when your contract expires. So you leave for no profit or loss - neutral for accounts

 

[MikeH72]

If we sell him , a large part of the fee goes to Spurs, I reckon.

How? He’s our player.

 

[MikeH72]

No

Your book value is nil when your contract expires. So you leave for no profit or loss - neutral for accounts

What?? So we didn’t make a loss on Cenk Tosun?

 

[ToffeeTim]

Wasn’t it zero, I mean it was heavily reported.

They wanted rid

There was a lot of stuff reported but I imagine there were tons of clauses

I find it hard to beleive Spurs left the contract open for us to move him on before they get any money from the deal. Maybe that's me being a little paranoid, but I think levy is too smart for that.

 

[catcherintherye]

If we've paid more than we sell we crystalise a loss.

if we loan, we save wages, his book value reduces by a year's worth of amortisation and then we can sell for less without making a loss.

But no one knows what we have paid. If it's genuinely nothing then anything is profit. I just doubt Levy would allow us a get out for free after under 20 games.

I think we havent paid anything until 20 games/starts.

Sounds like Levy negotiated a bad deal, but did have a 25% sell on fee for any quick sale. He wont need to worry about that though.

 

[catcherintherye]

Does it? We didn’t pay anything initially so if we haven’t paid them anything then sell him for £1m it would show as a profit on the books?

We are loaning him because nobody will buy him.