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blueblood said:
We’re not done for yet, but admittedly the challenge is getting harder by the week. The home games are key;
United, Leicester, Chelsea, Brentford, Palace.
If we could get 9-10 points from them and somehow get one win away, or even a point at Watford, I still think we’ll be ok.
I’m seeing tomorrow as a free hit. Allan returning but still no Mina or VDB. A 10 day break before Leicester is time for those 2 to hopefully get fit. VDB brings much needed composure to midfield and Mina is our best centre back.
Granted there’s a lot of ‘ifs’ and ‘hopefullys’ in there, but all is not lost!
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You're right, but considering that we've taken just 12 points from our last 23 league matches, hoping for 10 from any selection of five matches feels almost impossibly aspirational at this point.
 
Villa Fan in Peace

All season I thought that there is no chance Everton will go down but I have to admit I think it is looking quite likely now given the run in u have and that of Burnley. I think the bottom 3 will be Norwich, Watford and one of either Everton & Burnley. I would like it to be Burnley as I believe the Premiership would be a better league to have Everton than Burnley in it.

If relegation does happen, life outside the PL is not as bad as many think it is. You have more games, lots of midweek fixtures, and you will compete to win the league and come straight back up. From a football fan's perspective, it is an enjoyable experience supporting your team in the Championship. I really enjoyed quite a lot of Villa's time in the Championship. The times I didn't enjoy were when Bruce was manager and we were playing awful football and in a financial mess with a really poor owner.

If you do go down, Frank has experience at the Championship, he had his Derby team playing some good football the year we beat them in the playoff final and I think it would be wise to keep Frank at the helm. He is a young manager and still learning and the Championship is a much more forgiving place for a manger like that. It would also give him a bit of time to get rid of the stacks of deadwood you guys have accumulated over the last few years and build a new younger and more exciting and motivated team.

The big negative is the financials and the club management at Everton. I think the best outcome for Everton is to get relegated and for Moshiri to cut his losses a run for cover. Everton is still a huge club and if u could get someone to buy the club and put in a proper CEO to run the club correctly then it could be the best thing that could happen. Buying a Championship club would very much appeal to a new investor as there is the immediate gain if you get back to the PL and if you are in the Championship the sale price would be less than as a PL club.

Everton FC has been around since 1878 and will no doubt be around for many many more years to come. It is too big a club and a brand to go out of business. If Moshiri continues to run the club into the ground and if u got points deduction etc then that just makes Everton a more attractive purchase for an investor and it will be a fire sale and the sale price would be very attractive.

Yes there will be difficult times ahead but I think the thoughts of the demise of Everton are unfounded and Everton FC will last longer than Moshiri. Good luck for the rest of the season and whatever happens, its only football, it is not life or death and Championship football will be a lot more fun than a lot of you expect it to be I think.
 

Villa_Fan said:
Villa Fan in Peace

All season I thought that there is no chance Everton will go down but I have to admit I think it is looking quite likely now given the run in u have and that of Burnley. I think the bottom 3 will be Norwich, Watford and one of either Everton & Burnley. I would like it to be Burnley as I believe the Premiership would be a better league to have Everton than Burnley in it.

If relegation does happen, life outside the PL is not as bad as many think it is. You have more games, lots of midweek fixtures, and you will compete to win the league and come straight back up. From a football fan's perspective, it is an enjoyable experience supporting your team in the Championship. I really enjoyed quite a lot of Villa's time in the Championship. The times I didn't enjoy were when Bruce was manager and we were playing awful football and in a financial mess with a really poor owner.

If you do go down, Frank has experience at the Championship, he had his Derby team playing some good football the year we beat them in the playoff final and I think it would be wise to keep Frank at the helm. He is a young manager and still learning and the Championship is a much more forgiving place for a manger like that. It would also give him a bit of time to get rid of the stacks of deadwood you guys have accumulated over the last few years and build a new younger and more exciting and motivated team.

The big negative is the financials and the club management at Everton. I think the best outcome for Everton is to get relegated and for Moshiri to cut his losses a run for cover. Everton is still a huge club and if u could get someone to buy the club and put in a proper CEO to run the club correctly then it could be the best thing that could happen. Buying a Championship club would very much appeal to a new investor as there is the immediate gain if you get back to the PL and if you are in the Championship the sale price would be less than as a PL club.

Everton FC has been around since 1878 and will no doubt be around for many many more years to come. It is too big a club and a brand to go out of business. If Moshiri continues to run the club into the ground and if u got points deduction etc then that just makes Everton a more attractive purchase for an investor and it will be a fire sale and the sale price would be very attractive.

Yes there will be difficult times ahead but I think the thoughts of the demise of Everton are unfounded and Everton FC will last longer than Moshiri. Good luck for the rest of the season and whatever happens, its only football, it is not life or death and Championship football will be a lot more fun than a lot of you expect it to be I think.
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Nah, not having that, relegation would not be enjoyable and not be the best outcome for me, it would be so embarrassing for this once great football club of mine, can’t be allowed to happen, starting from tomorrow
 
Super Kevin sheedy said:
Nah, not having that, relegation would not be enjoyable and not be the best outcome for me, it would be so embarrassing for this once great football club of mine, can’t be allowed to happen, starting from tomorrow
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I guess It would be enjoyable ride if a club gains promotion in the parachute payment period but even the the challenges I guess would be significant
What Everton’s plight , and alas I see it as that, does show having and spending money is one side of the equation spending it well and having well organised off field team is just as important
 
ToffeeTim said:
I think the minute we drop into the bottom 3 we are done. These players couldn't get motivated to run the extra mile on Wednesday. How will they react with character to going into the drop zone in April. They are weak and either can't cope with the pressure, or don't care.

We need a result tomorrow. Probably needs to be a win, but at least something. You keep losing at this point and you're gone.
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I dont think its about running the extra mile. I think they had that Wednesday - I just dont thinkthey can eradicate errors from their games. In the PL teams ALWAYS punish you for errors when you are away from home. Less so when you are home. I think thats key to our survival - defensive errors.
Wednesday saw big errors from Kenny, Holgate and Godfrey - all season its been the same with Keane too. We will get punished unless it stops.
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
They will be first to loose their jobs as positions are axed. Way before player or management are moved on to other lucrative earnings. Also Everton community work will be reassessed which no doubt means less of it...

Don't have much left for this squad apart from sneering contempt for the large majority. Which is not healthy and why all things Everton is dropping off my radar.
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100% agree with you mate.
Good honest jobs being cut, due to incompetence from people in senior positions to them, and in no relevance to them. Just disgusting.

I have gone through my anger stage and now apathetic to it all.
I have a wedding tomorrow so won't be watching them. I resigned myself to relegation about a month or so ago, and I haven't changed my stance since.

It just sickens me how people can be so completely incompetent at a job, and just have no repercussions. When if any of us were to do the same, you'd be having sleepless nights wondering how you'll pay the mortgage.
 

ToffeeTim said:
You don't get free hits in our position, not even at Anfield

Which is why we are absolutely done for
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Oh Jesus H Christ. Liverpool bumming us left right and centre. To maintain 1st place and push us deep in relegation. Could be the worst day in everton history.

Just when we thought getting a lesson from thier under 13s was as low as it got.

We are the gimps of the city.
 
Villa_Fan said:
Villa Fan in Peace

All season I thought that there is no chance Everton will go down but I have to admit I think it is looking quite likely now given the run in u have and that of Burnley. I think the bottom 3 will be Norwich, Watford and one of either Everton & Burnley. I would like it to be Burnley as I believe the Premiership would be a better league to have Everton than Burnley in it.

If relegation does happen, life outside the PL is not as bad as many think it is. You have more games, lots of midweek fixtures, and you will compete to win the league and come straight back up. From a football fan's perspective, it is an enjoyable experience supporting your team in the Championship. I really enjoyed quite a lot of Villa's time in the Championship. The times I didn't enjoy were when Bruce was manager and we were playing awful football and in a financial mess with a really poor owner.

If you do go down, Frank has experience at the Championship, he had his Derby team playing some good football the year we beat them in the playoff final and I think it would be wise to keep Frank at the helm. He is a young manager and still learning and the Championship is a much more forgiving place for a manger like that. It would also give him a bit of time to get rid of the stacks of deadwood you guys have accumulated over the last few years and build a new younger and more exciting and motivated team.

The big negative is the financials and the club management at Everton. I think the best outcome for Everton is to get relegated and for Moshiri to cut his losses a run for cover. Everton is still a huge club and if u could get someone to buy the club and put in a proper CEO to run the club correctly then it could be the best thing that could happen. Buying a Championship club would very much appeal to a new investor as there is the immediate gain if you get back to the PL and if you are in the Championship the sale price would be less than as a PL club.

Everton FC has been around since 1878 and will no doubt be around for many many more years to come. It is too big a club and a brand to go out of business. If Moshiri continues to run the club into the ground and if u got points deduction etc then that just makes Everton a more attractive purchase for an investor and it will be a fire sale and the sale price would be very attractive.

Yes there will be difficult times ahead but I think the thoughts of the demise of Everton are unfounded and Everton FC will last longer than Moshiri. Good luck for the rest of the season and whatever happens, its only football, it is not life or death and Championship football will be a lot more fun than a lot of you expect it to be I think.
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I’m sorry but I wouldn’t fancy Lampard bringing you back. People buy in to his pundits PR team.

He took over a derby side that had finished 6th the previous year and lost in the playoff semi

Then brought in mason Mount, Harry Wilson, martyn waghorn, tomori and jouzefoun.

He scraped into the playoffs and yes they did beat us but of those 4 games in total lampard had the better of us in a 20 minute period where Leeds we’ll and bottled it 5 minutes before half time and the 15 minutes after half time. But he got the win so well done but that derby side shouldn’t have been scraping into the playoffs they should have been challenging for the league as shown by the amount the they were blowing in wages and fees in that league and now they are in the [Poor language removed] they’re in.


Everton’s situation reminds me so much of ours in 2004 the spirit in the club had gone the club was in disarray players that should have been better not performing and everything just heading in 1 direction.

Our financial situation was [Poor language removed] we had to fire sale players like viduka, smith, Milner, Matteo, Robinson, many more.

We filled the team with journey man and finished mid table, got to the playoff final they next year but then sunk to league one the next and never recovered. Which allowed chancers to take over that were even worse.

Villa were lucky to get up when they did in the 3rd season or they’d have been stuck with no parachute payments having to sell players to keep within FFP

If you’re relegated and the malaise is still around the club come next summer it could get worse see sunderland
 

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