Manchester United

PhilM · January 30, 2022

luuk_deventer said:
Greenwood was allegedly fragile before all this due to the suicide of his close friend. It was one of the reasons that Rangnick brought in a team of Sports Psychologists when he arrived. His career at Manchester United is surely over but MUFC will also be alert to being accused of abandoning a suffering young player that came through their academy too. If MG says sorry, the club will almost certainly send him out on loan for a year or two.

Fans will not forget but he is also not the first Footballer to do wrong and continued their career. He is 20, he needs to acknowledge his wrongs, pay for the damages caused and learn from this. If he does this, he could get back on track. Part of his rehab in years to come will be forgiving himself and focusing on his career again, probably in another country. Lots of tough lessons for him to come.

Pardon? While any of the above may act as minor mitigation, it doesn’t negate the seriousness of any allegations. None of the above would excuse such actions or not getting a custodial.

Baines' left foot · January 30, 2022

Just listened to the audio on Twitter and it’s truly stomach turning.

The horrible runt thinks he has a right to take it whenever he wants. The entitlement is staggering

luuk_deventer · January 30, 2022

PhilM said:
Pardon? While any of the above may act as minor mitigation, it doesn’t negate the seriousness of any allegations. None of the above would excuse such actions or not getting a custodial.

I would never suggest that it does. But, as you say, it will be cited.

GoldenToffee · January 30, 2022

navidson said:
Can't spend it in jail though

I'd happily trade 18 months of my life for the 5-10m he's probably got in his bank account!

Spoiler alert: he won't spend a single day in the pen.

PhilM · January 30, 2022

luuk_deventer said:
I would never suggest that it does. But, as you say, it will be cited.

And a jury would hopefully see it for what it is; a judge certainly should when sentencing.

Blueclouds · January 30, 2022

Few questions to be asked? Did Man u know about this and continued to protect their assets.

EFCccc · January 30, 2022

Who said he’s fragile?. The kid isn’t fragile at all, he’s an absolute beut who thinks he’s better than everyone.

lesbattersby · January 30, 2022

PhilM said:
Pardon? While any of the above may act as minor mitigation, it doesn’t negate the seriousness of any allegations. None of the above would excuse such actions or not getting a custodial.

When I was younger 2 of my friends died within 6 months of each other. Never once have I assaulted anyone. Its no excuse and a pretty poor one if that's his.

Tin-Tin · January 30, 2022

Blueclouds said:
Few questions to be asked? Did Man u know about this and continued to protect their assets.

Look at my post on the previous page from last year, suggest it was known then by the press and assuming the club.

tsubaki · January 30, 2022

Tin-Tin said:
This is normal isnt it, players get injunctions. I bet the girl thought something would be done last year and it was all hushed up

I've never heard of an injunction granted to prevent reporting of a criminal offence, never mind a serious criminal offence - and even if it was given, the outrage over it would probably result (as we saw with Trafigura) in an MP reading the report out in the Commons anyway.

No idea what has happened in this case, though I would genuinely be amazed if she has reported that and nothing has been done (at a minimum one would think once that allegation has been made and they've seen that evidence that he would have been arrested).

As for the media personally I think if its true they've sat on this for months its probably for the same reason they sit on loads of other information; its potential use to them (I mean this sort of coercive pressure is probably how a lot of the ITK info from the dressing room gets to the papers in the first place). As Leveson showed they've got extensive form for obtaining information by means most would consider foul (or illegal) and this would fit in, I think.

Finally (if it is true they sat on this) then the largely negative coverage of Rashford in the right-wing press really needs to be looked at again; imagine slating someone for taking a principled stand on feeding kids when you've also been keeping this quiet.

luuk_deventer · January 30, 2022

Blueclouds said:
Few questions to be asked? Did Man u know about this and continued to protect their assets.

Clubs employ teams of people to protect their players in every sense.

When you give young men at peak physical fitness an infinite amount of money, they will be surrounded by lots of beautiful women and lots of businessmen.

Not all of them have good intentions. Sometimes players can get caught up in things without doing anything wrong (obviously not the case here) and the club will try to smooth things over