Everton January 2022 Transfer Thread

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Sorry lad. Try again.

Actually found some ironically hilarious posts of yours regarding Koeman during his first 6 months here [joined June 2016]. Quite a few similarities to our current manager yet you back him unequivocally instead. Frankly, the way you defend him just gets more strange by the day.

Where've we heard this one before? A manager with a big repuation that needs to coach some defensive stability?

He needs to be down at FF twice as long as he usually is and earning that king's ransom he gets each season and coach some defensive nous into the back four. Up to now he's been avoiding that and just pulling nine back behind the ball in order to become "defensively solid". I'm sorry. I think Koeman is a decent manager as he proved at S'ton. But I'm not being had off by this feller just because he was a star player at Barcelona. Not one friggin bit of it.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5004332

Benitez certainly gets it though...

I've read nor heard anything from Koeman since he became manager that reassures me he gets Everton or values the post here.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5011423

I must have missed Benitez's class?

Koeman = not Everton class.

Simple as that.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/atmosphere-around-the-club.92701/post-5012322

Benitez is never disruptive to this squad...

Overall: I think it's pretty clear Koeman is, and will continue to be, a disruptive influence. I dont think that's who we are as a club, tbh. I knew Koeman had a run in with Tadic before he arrived, but I had no idea about his back story other than that - his other fall outs at S'ton and his time at Valencia etc.

There's going to have to be tangible onfield success for him to get away with that for his tenure here to work out.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5012843

2 wins in 12 shocking? Promises good stuff when he gets his own players? That one is new...


Excellent win? Three points is three points, of course. But in the context of 2 wins in 12 games it's shocking.

Tbf, i've always said this season is a gimme for Koeman. Top half finish is adequate. For me though in order to be handed that slack he had to show that he knew what he was doing and getting the foundations in place. I don't see that. I just see a mess and a manager who continually talks down a group of players and promises jam tomorrow when we have his signings in.

Fair enough. If he changes the whole first team in the next two windows and has us playing good and winning football it's job done. But he looks pretty clueless right now. That old saying about a poor workman blaming his tools is spot on in relation to him. Start of season 2017/18 he's under massive pressure to prove himself.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5114620

A good start under someone elses squad that turned sour? Must not apply to Benitez that one.

First five games of the season and the record start for Koeman: which players achieved that? The ones he received from Martinez/Moyes era.

They still had the ability to get on the ball and find feet...Koeman has now instructed them to forget all that and hoof the ball as far downfield as possible.

Dont blame the poor job on the tradesman's tools; it's the tradesman who is to blame.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5115451

Ah but didn't Benitez say he was aiming for 8th?

Lets have it right: 7th is adequate. It is NOT an ambition for this club. Any manager who says it should be needs to be educated.

[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5132247

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Got bored after this but that's just a few snippets from Koeman's first 6 months at Everton. Where's the same criticism aimed at Benitez for the same issues?
 
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Actually found some ironically hilarious posts of yours regarding Koeman during his first 6 months here [joined June 2016]. Quite a few similarities to our current manager yet you back him unequivocally instead. Frankfully, the way you defend him just gets more strange by the day.

Where've we heard this one before? A manager with a big repuation that needs to coach some defensive stability?

He needs to be down at FF twice as long as he usually is and earning that king's ransom he gets each season and coach some defensive nous into the back four. Up to now he's been avoiding that and just pulling nine back behind the ball in order to become "defensively solid". I'm sorry. I think Koeman is a decent manager as he proved at S'ton. But I'm not being had off by this feller just because he was a star player at Barcelona. Not one friggin bit of it.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5004332

Benitez certainly gets it though...

I've read nor heard anything from Koeman since he became manager that reassures me he gets Everton or values the post here.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5011423

I must have missed Benitez's class?

Koeman = not Everton class.

Simple as that.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/atmosphere-around-the-club.92701/post-5012322

Benitez is never disruptive to this squad...

Overall: I think it's pretty clear Koeman is, and will continue to be, a disruptive influence. I dont think that's who we are as a club, tbh. I knew Koeman had a run in with Tadic before he arrived, but I had no idea about his back story other than that - his other fall outs at S'ton and his time at Valencia etc.

There's going to have to be tangible onfield success for him to get away with that for his tenure here to work out.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5012843

2 wins in 12 shocking? Promises good stuff when he gets his own players? That one is new...


Excellent win? Three points is three points, of course. But in the context of 2 wins in 12 games it's shocking.

Tbf, i've always said this season is a gimme for Koeman. Top half finish is adequate. For me though in order to be handed that slack he had to show that he knew what he was doing and getting the foundations in place. I don't see that. I just see a mess and a manager who continually talks down a group of players and promises jam tomorrow when we have his signings in.

Fair enough. If he changes the whole first team in the next two windows and has us playing good and winning football it's job done. But he looks pretty clueless right now. That old saying about a poor workman blaming his tools is spot on in relation to him. Start of season 2017/18 he's under massive pressure to prove himself.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5114620

A good start under someone elses squad that turned sour? Must not apply to Benitez that one.

First five games of the season and the record start for Koeman: which players achieved that? The ones he received from Martinez/Moyes era.

They still had the ability to get on the ball and find feet...Koeman has now instructed them to forget all that and hoof the ball as far downfield as possible.

Dont blame the poor job on the tradesman's tools; it's the tradesman who is to blame.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5115451

Ah but didn't Benitez say he was aiming for 8th?

Lets have it right: 7th is adequate. It is NOT an ambition for this club. Any manager who says it should be needs to be educated.

[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5132247

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Got bored after this but that's just a few snippets from Koeman's first 6 months at Everton. Where's the same criticism aimed at Benitez for the same issues?
 
Actually found some ironically hilarious posts of yours regarding Koeman during his first 6 months here [joined June 2016]. Quite a few similarities to our current manager yet you back him unequivocally instead. Frankfully, the way you defend him just gets more strange by the day.

Where've we heard this one before? A manager with a big repuation that needs to coach some defensive stability?

He needs to be down at FF twice as long as he usually is and earning that king's ransom he gets each season and coach some defensive nous into the back four. Up to now he's been avoiding that and just pulling nine back behind the ball in order to become "defensively solid". I'm sorry. I think Koeman is a decent manager as he proved at S'ton. But I'm not being had off by this feller just because he was a star player at Barcelona. Not one friggin bit of it.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5004332

Benitez certainly gets it though...

I've read nor heard anything from Koeman since he became manager that reassures me he gets Everton or values the post here.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5011423

I must have missed Benitez's class?

Koeman = not Everton class.

Simple as that.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/atmosphere-around-the-club.92701/post-5012322

Benitez is never disruptive to this squad...

Overall: I think it's pretty clear Koeman is, and will continue to be, a disruptive influence. I dont think that's who we are as a club, tbh. I knew Koeman had a run in with Tadic before he arrived, but I had no idea about his back story other than that - his other fall outs at S'ton and his time at Valencia etc.

There's going to have to be tangible onfield success for him to get away with that for his tenure here to work out.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5012843

2 wins in 12 shocking? Promises good stuff when he gets his own players? That one is new...


Excellent win? Three points is three points, of course. But in the context of 2 wins in 12 games it's shocking.

Tbf, i've always said this season is a gimme for Koeman. Top half finish is adequate. For me though in order to be handed that slack he had to show that he knew what he was doing and getting the foundations in place. I don't see that. I just see a mess and a manager who continually talks down a group of players and promises jam tomorrow when we have his signings in.

Fair enough. If he changes the whole first team in the next two windows and has us playing good and winning football it's job done. But he looks pretty clueless right now. That old saying about a poor workman blaming his tools is spot on in relation to him. Start of season 2017/18 he's under massive pressure to prove himself.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5114620

A good start under someone elses squad that turned sour? Must not apply to Benitez that one.

First five games of the season and the record start for Koeman: which players achieved that? The ones he received from Martinez/Moyes era.

They still had the ability to get on the ball and find feet...Koeman has now instructed them to forget all that and hoof the ball as far downfield as possible.

Dont blame the poor job on the tradesman's tools; it's the tradesman who is to blame.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5115451

Ah but didn't Benitez say he was aiming for 8th?

Lets have it right: 7th is adequate. It is NOT an ambition for this club. Any manager who says it should be needs to be educated.

[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5132247

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Got bored after this but that's just a few snippets from Koeman's first 6 months at Everton. Where's the same criticism aimed at Benitez for the same issues?
I'm sure he will somehow weasel his way out of it or just point blank ignore you
 

Actually found some ironically hilarious posts of yours regarding Koeman during his first 6 months here [joined June 2016]. Quite a few similarities to our current manager yet you back him unequivocally instead. Frankfully, the way you defend him just gets more strange by the day.

Where've we heard this one before? A manager with a big repuation that needs to coach some defensive stability?

He needs to be down at FF twice as long as he usually is and earning that king's ransom he gets each season and coach some defensive nous into the back four. Up to now he's been avoiding that and just pulling nine back behind the ball in order to become "defensively solid". I'm sorry. I think Koeman is a decent manager as he proved at S'ton. But I'm not being had off by this feller just because he was a star player at Barcelona. Not one friggin bit of it.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5004332

Benitez certainly gets it though...

I've read nor heard anything from Koeman since he became manager that reassures me he gets Everton or values the post here.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5011423

I must have missed Benitez's class?

Koeman = not Everton class.

Simple as that.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/atmosphere-around-the-club.92701/post-5012322

Benitez is never disruptive to this squad...

Overall: I think it's pretty clear Koeman is, and will continue to be, a disruptive influence. I dont think that's who we are as a club, tbh. I knew Koeman had a run in with Tadic before he arrived, but I had no idea about his back story other than that - his other fall outs at S'ton and his time at Valencia etc.

There's going to have to be tangible onfield success for him to get away with that for his tenure here to work out.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5012843

2 wins in 12 shocking? Promises good stuff when he gets his own players? That one is new...


Excellent win? Three points is three points, of course. But in the context of 2 wins in 12 games it's shocking.

Tbf, i've always said this season is a gimme for Koeman. Top half finish is adequate. For me though in order to be handed that slack he had to show that he knew what he was doing and getting the foundations in place. I don't see that. I just see a mess and a manager who continually talks down a group of players and promises jam tomorrow when we have his signings in.

Fair enough. If he changes the whole first team in the next two windows and has us playing good and winning football it's job done. But he looks pretty clueless right now. That old saying about a poor workman blaming his tools is spot on in relation to him. Start of season 2017/18 he's under massive pressure to prove himself.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5114620

A good start under someone elses squad that turned sour? Must not apply to Benitez that one.

First five games of the season and the record start for Koeman: which players achieved that? The ones he received from Martinez/Moyes era.

They still had the ability to get on the ball and find feet...Koeman has now instructed them to forget all that and hoof the ball as far downfield as possible.

Dont blame the poor job on the tradesman's tools; it's the tradesman who is to blame.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5115451

Ah but didn't Benitez say he was aiming for 8th?

Lets have it right: 7th is adequate. It is NOT an ambition for this club. Any manager who says it should be needs to be educated.

[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5132247

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Got bored after this but that's just a few snippets from Koeman's first 6 months at Everton. Where's the same criticism aimed at Benitez for the same issues?

Bloody hell. Dave’s an idiot by Christ, the man’s got a family!!
 
Actually found some ironically hilarious posts of yours regarding Koeman during his first 6 months here [joined June 2016]. Quite a few similarities to our current manager yet you back him unequivocally instead. Frankly, the way you defend him just gets more strange by the day.

Where've we heard this one before? A manager with a big repuation that needs to coach some defensive stability?

He needs to be down at FF twice as long as he usually is and earning that king's ransom he gets each season and coach some defensive nous into the back four. Up to now he's been avoiding that and just pulling nine back behind the ball in order to become "defensively solid". I'm sorry. I think Koeman is a decent manager as he proved at S'ton. But I'm not being had off by this feller just because he was a star player at Barcelona. Not one friggin bit of it.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5004332

Benitez certainly gets it though...

I've read nor heard anything from Koeman since he became manager that reassures me he gets Everton or values the post here.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5011423

I must have missed Benitez's class?

Koeman = not Everton class.

Simple as that.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/atmosphere-around-the-club.92701/post-5012322

Benitez is never disruptive to this squad...

Overall: I think it's pretty clear Koeman is, and will continue to be, a disruptive influence. I dont think that's who we are as a club, tbh. I knew Koeman had a run in with Tadic before he arrived, but I had no idea about his back story other than that - his other fall outs at S'ton and his time at Valencia etc.

There's going to have to be tangible onfield success for him to get away with that for his tenure here to work out.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5012843

2 wins in 12 shocking? Promises good stuff when he gets his own players? That one is new...


Excellent win? Three points is three points, of course. But in the context of 2 wins in 12 games it's shocking.

Tbf, i've always said this season is a gimme for Koeman. Top half finish is adequate. For me though in order to be handed that slack he had to show that he knew what he was doing and getting the foundations in place. I don't see that. I just see a mess and a manager who continually talks down a group of players and promises jam tomorrow when we have his signings in.

Fair enough. If he changes the whole first team in the next two windows and has us playing good and winning football it's job done. But he looks pretty clueless right now. That old saying about a poor workman blaming his tools is spot on in relation to him. Start of season 2017/18 he's under massive pressure to prove himself.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5114620

A good start under someone elses squad that turned sour? Must not apply to Benitez that one.

First five games of the season and the record start for Koeman: which players achieved that? The ones he received from Martinez/Moyes era.

They still had the ability to get on the ball and find feet...Koeman has now instructed them to forget all that and hoof the ball as far downfield as possible.

Dont blame the poor job on the tradesman's tools; it's the tradesman who is to blame.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5115451

Ah but didn't Benitez say he was aiming for 8th?

Lets have it right: 7th is adequate. It is NOT an ambition for this club. Any manager who says it should be needs to be educated.

[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5132247

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Got bored after this but that's just a few snippets from Koeman's first 6 months at Everton. Where's the same criticism aimed at Benitez for the same issues?

So this is your smoking gun that I dont hand a manager time"

"Tbf, i've always said this season is a gimme for Koeman. Top half finish is adequate. For me though in order to be handed that slack he had to show that he knew what he was doing and getting the foundations in place. I don't see that. I just see a mess and a manager who continually talks down a group of players and promises jam tomorrow when we have his signings in. Fair enough. If he changes the whole first team in the next two windows and has us playing good and winning football it's job done."

Yeah, you got me there.
 
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Actually found some ironically hilarious posts of yours regarding Koeman during his first 6 months here [joined June 2016]. Quite a few similarities to our current manager yet you back him unequivocally instead. Frankly, the way you defend him just gets more strange by the day.

Where've we heard this one before? A manager with a big repuation that needs to coach some defensive stability?

He needs to be down at FF twice as long as he usually is and earning that king's ransom he gets each season and coach some defensive nous into the back four. Up to now he's been avoiding that and just pulling nine back behind the ball in order to become "defensively solid". I'm sorry. I think Koeman is a decent manager as he proved at S'ton. But I'm not being had off by this feller just because he was a star player at Barcelona. Not one friggin bit of it.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5004332

Benitez certainly gets it though...

I've read nor heard anything from Koeman since he became manager that reassures me he gets Everton or values the post here.

[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5011423

I must have missed Benitez's class?

Koeman = not Everton class.

Simple as that.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/atmosphere-around-the-club.92701/post-5012322

Benitez is never disruptive to this squad...

Overall: I think it's pretty clear Koeman is, and will continue to be, a disruptive influence. I dont think that's who we are as a club, tbh. I knew Koeman had a run in with Tadic before he arrived, but I had no idea about his back story other than that - his other fall outs at S'ton and his time at Valencia etc.

There's going to have to be tangible onfield success for him to get away with that for his tenure here to work out.


[Nov 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5012843

2 wins in 12 shocking? Promises good stuff when he gets his own players? That one is new...


Excellent win? Three points is three points, of course. But in the context of 2 wins in 12 games it's shocking.

Tbf, i've always said this season is a gimme for Koeman. Top half finish is adequate. For me though in order to be handed that slack he had to show that he knew what he was doing and getting the foundations in place. I don't see that. I just see a mess and a manager who continually talks down a group of players and promises jam tomorrow when we have his signings in.

Fair enough. If he changes the whole first team in the next two windows and has us playing good and winning football it's job done. But he looks pretty clueless right now. That old saying about a poor workman blaming his tools is spot on in relation to him. Start of season 2017/18 he's under massive pressure to prove himself.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5114620

A good start under someone elses squad that turned sour? Must not apply to Benitez that one.

First five games of the season and the record start for Koeman: which players achieved that? The ones he received from Martinez/Moyes era.

They still had the ability to get on the ball and find feet...Koeman has now instructed them to forget all that and hoof the ball as far downfield as possible.

Dont blame the poor job on the tradesman's tools; it's the tradesman who is to blame.


[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5115451

Ah but didn't Benitez say he was aiming for 8th?

Lets have it right: 7th is adequate. It is NOT an ambition for this club. Any manager who says it should be needs to be educated.

[Dec 2016] https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/post-5132247

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Got bored after this but that's just a few snippets from Koeman's first 6 months at Everton. Where's the same criticism aimed at Benitez for the same issues?
Surprised you could be arsed to bother, when the reply you will get will either be Boris Johnson style piffle and bluster or Boris Johnson style stick fingers in ears, deny it (even though it’s obvious) and try to discredit anything you have just written with bombastic BS.
 
So this is your smoking gun that I dont hand a manager time"

"Tbf, i've always said this season is a gimme for Koeman. Top half finish is adequate. For me though in order to be handed that slack he had to show that he knew what he was doing and getting the foundations in place. I don't see that. I just see a mess and a manager who continually talks down a group of players and promises jam tomorrow when we have his signings in. Fair enough. If he changes the whole first team in the next two windows and has us playing good and winning football it's job done."

Yeah, you got me there.

Think you've missed the point of that section my man.
 
Think you've missed the point of that section my man.
I'm not sure I did.

Manager's get their first season. That's all I've ever claimed. Criticised yes. I never call for their heads...which is why your vaulting exercise was fruitless.
 

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