The Ale House - Is it even a thing now?

[Chewbacca]

Supermarkets being allowed to massively undercut pubs has been the main cause but young people of my acquaintance just don’t drink like we did at their age.

If I want cheap beer for the house I buy direct from breweries rather than give Sainsburys my money.

 

[peteblue]

A night out is too expensive people are having others around to theirs and buying 20 bottles for a fraction of the cost compared to a pub.

The tax regime between Supermarkets and Pubs will kill many pubs.….

an old article but gives a bit of an idea…

'Taxes killing pubs while supermarkets surge'

Two taxes in particular are killing pubs according to Tim Martin: business rates and VAT. Here the JD Wetherspoon chairman has his say on the situation...

www.morningadvertiser.co.uk

 

[Kurt.]

Are you feeling ok now though ?…..

Nope… still in bed and struggling to get breath …. Not gonna lie .. this has been a lot worse than I ever thought it would be .. admittedly some get it worse than others , I’ve just been lucky I suppose ?

 

[tommye]

BTW, the GOT alehouse is by far the best I've ever drank in.
Over 10 years I've been a local and the old place is still the best place to go for good company, good laughs and good people.


Never EVER change GOT ?

 

[coollino]

Pubs need to adapt too though, there are pubs who think just having 'real ale' (which always has a pump with the clip always facing the other way), one lager (because lager is tasteless fizz!)and Guinness is enough where it's not anymore.

there are some awful pubs out there

 

[kev]

A night out is too expensive people are having others around to theirs and buying 20 bottles for a fraction of the cost compared to a pub.

Yes, a lot of people have made this point.
I fully understand that it's cheaper to drink at home, but it's just not the same.
The ale is obviously the main attraction, but it's far from the only reason for going to the pub. Meeting new people, unexpectedly bumping into old friends etc.

(often literally bumping into old friends in my case) lol

 

[coollino]

BTW, the GOT alehouse is by far the best I've ever drank in.
Over 10 years I've been a local and the old place is still the best place to go for good company, good laughs and good people.


Never EVER change GOT ?

Maybe go for a drink in the current affairs forum?

 

[kev]

Maybe go for a drink in the current affairs forum?

That place is like one of them pubs you avoid at all costs.

 

[tommye]

Maybe go for a drink in the current affairs forum?

 

[ClausThomsen]

Pubs need to adapt too though, there are pubs who think just having 'real ale' (which always has a pump with the clip always facing the other way), one lager (because lager is tasteless fizz!)and Guinness is enough where it's not anymore.

there are some awful pubs out there

The Cricketer's Arms in St.Helens is a good example. Years back it was a rundown estate pub on the edge of the town centre flogging cheap Fosters and had a bit of a reputation. The family who bought it must have been mad. Absolutely no experience of running a pub and seemingly bought it because they'd really got into real ale at their local and thought it looked a good way to make a living.

Short while later they turned it into a thriving pub and a bit after that into a National CAMRA winner. Not local CAMRA, the full on National title. All down to the hard work of the family who bought it and their refusal to accept the chain pub model or turn it into a restaurant that does ale.

 

[kev]

The Cricketer's Arms in St.Helens is a good example. Years back it was a rundown estate pub on the edge of the town centre flogging cheap Fosters and had a bit of a reputation. The family who bought it must have been mad. Absolutely no experience of running a pub and seemingly bought it because they'd really got into real ale at their local and thought it looked a good way to make a living.

Short while later they turned it into a thriving pub and a bit after that into a National CAMRA winner. Not local CAMRA, the full on National title. All down to the hard work of the family who bought it and their refusal to accept the chain pub model or turn it into a restaurant that does ale.

Always call in the Cricketers on the odd occasions I go into Sint'elens.
A fine pub ?

 

[gianthogweed]

The decline of community social gatherings a passing generation and places like bargain booze

 

[anton66]

The Arthur on Rice lane. No food, toilets stink, cheap pint.

 

[COYBL25]

The Cricketer's Arms in St.Helens is a good example. Years back it was a rundown estate pub on the edge of the town centre flogging cheap Fosters and had a bit of a reputation. The family who bought it must have been mad. Absolutely no experience of running a pub and seemingly bought it because they'd really got into real ale at their local and thought it looked a good way to make a living.

Short while later they turned it into a thriving pub and a bit after that into a National CAMRA winner. Not local CAMRA, the full on National title. All down to the hard work of the family who bought it and their refusal to accept the chain pub model or turn it into a restaurant that does ale.

The Caledonia in the city centre is another good example.

Brewery wanted to sell it and turn it into flats and a shop.

Eight years on and it’s still thriving and one of the most eclectic pubs in the whole city.

The ale is always good, as is the food and it’s incredibly cheap for town.

Plus it’s one of the only pubs in town, that openly welcomes dogs too.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Love my local boozer.