New Everton Manager

[Toast]

He doesn't even live in Liverpool. I don't want to appoint someone who doesn't know where he is...

I though that an odd mistake by that account too.
I know exactly where he lives.

 

[JLW]

Welcome Moist.

Count him out as well he’s just signed a new contract.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Must say.... That's a great view.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Why not Steven Gerrard

In an ideal world we would get Pochettino but he turned us down before Ancelotti apparently and there’s nothing to suggest he would pick us before Spurs even if he becomes available. You do wonder why he keeps failing to win trophies, even a one horse race in France.

Conte is obviously the big name available. This certainly wouldn’t be a bad appointment but he would only worth hiring if he agreed to work with players chosen by Brands on top of Rom if we could entice him back. What Carlo has shown us is that there is no loyalty whatsoever in football so we cannot buy another load of footballers only coming to us because of a manager who will be gone within 2 years.

Galtier seems like an interesting appointment who has done a fantastic job at Lille despite his best players being sold and is certainly somebody I could get on board with. He would be willing to work with and develop young, hungry, ambitious and quick players in the Godfrey mould that we need to be targeting going forward

Please stop with the Potter shouts. The man has done absolutely nothing to suggest he can take a club like ours to the next level. It is such a small minded appointment which would show the mediocrity of the club that we have just gotten away from with the Ancelotti appointment. The lowered expectations of the Kenwright era has affected you all. A lot of you actually wanted Big Sam! You will be the same ones moaning in 2 years time of a lack of ambition when we finish mid table again

More than anything think about the optics. What does it say to potential players going from Ancelotti to Potter. Does that sound like a club on the way up. Ancelloti to Gerrard doesn’t seem as bad. His name alone will attract players especially younger players who probably idolised him growing up

However the worst choice we could make is Moyes. Even Big Sam would be better than Davey as we know Sam would be gone in 12 months. As I said when it looked like Moyes would come back before we appointment Carlo, Moyes is a good enough manager to earn a new contract but he won’t win you anything which is what we all want. He has done exactly that at West Ham. Appointing him would be another 5 years wasted. Moyes was the right coach at the right time when he was appointed but he outstayed his welcome. I’ll never forgive him for how he blew the semi final against Liverpool. Even at one up it was clear in that first half that things were going wrong and he did absolutely nothing to change it. Who wants to go back to the plucky underdog narrative that Moyes did his best to harvest as it made him look better and excused his lack of fight against the big clubs, sitting back, inviting pressure, waiting to concede

So on to Gerrard. Despite how much most of us hate him there is no doubt he is a winner. Does anyone think he’ll stand for Sigurdsson or Gomes strolling around in midfield with the ball getting passed round them. He’s a local lad who was around in the 80s so knows what it means to see Everton as a winner. He’ll certainly have us fired up in the Derby. Despite his loyalties he does seem the type to want to lose at anything. Let’s not forget he was happy to leave Liverpool twice for Chelsea before he got threats (allegedly)

At least get him in for an interview. What’s the worst that can happen. One meeting will tell you if he’s up for the fight. Failing that the meeting will give you a useful insight into a potential manager of our arch rivals and it’ll unite the fan base behind anyone that it eventually chosen if we don’t appoint him!

He has just won a trophy which is what we want. Yes it was Scotland and you can say it’s a two horse race but it hasn’t been a two horse race up there in 10 years. Going undefeated and only conceding 4 goals at home all season (if I read that correctly) is unbelievable especially in a COVID no fan year. It’s clear we need to sort out our home form

Moving to Everton is a step up in players he is managing so there is no issue with a big manager like Ancelotti or Conte suddenly having to deal with lesser players. He will be happy working with and developing the young, hungry players that Brands has to bring in.

Are we a stepping stone to Liverpool, yes probably. However it’s not going to be like Barmby who left us out of the blue. Both sides know it’s a marriage of convenience. He needs to win a trophy/ get into the Champions League to persuade Liverpool to hire him and we are desperate for either. It’s a win-win. Most managers are going to leave after a couple of years and any player or manager who joins us should be looking to go from us to a massive club. It’s just where we are at present

So onto the biggest issue, the fact that he’s a Liverpool legend. We all love Beardsley, Watson, Sheedy and Ablett. I agree it’s probably not the same. Let me try it another way. If Klopp fell out with FSG tomorrow but wanted to stay in the area and would take the job if Moshiri was willing to make him the highest paid manager in the world, how many of us would take him as manager. Most of us would if we’re honest. He too is a Liverpool legend

I would be genuinely be interested to see how many of you would have him

I'll set my stall out a bit here...

No to Gerrard. It isn't that I think he's a bad manager, he seems to have done well up there (albeit Celtic appear to have been a mess this season), but there are lines you don't cross and both he and Benitez would be my line. I wouldn't go to watch Everton while they were being led by either of those two. Even in the world of Merseyside football, those two crossed lines I can't ever accept. From Benitez spitting on decades of tradition by becoming the first manager since Shankly introduced the tradition to refuse to have dinner with the manager of the opposing club to his small club jibes. Nah, he can get in the bin no matter how many interviews he tries to do to open up the possibility of us giving him a cushy job near where he lives. Gerrard equally scathing of us in the press, and in fairness to him, the appalling stick we handed out to him must stick in his throat too. Went too far on both sides and it just couldn't possibly happen.

Potter - I understand why people would be so against this, but all I'd ask is that people be a little more open-minded about why he might be worthy of consideration. If all you're going to do is pick coaches who are "winners", you are always going to miss the ones who have shown the potential that your casual fan might be overlooking. Take Klopp when he went to Dortmund from relegated Mainz, or when Southampton appointed Pochettino whose only body of work was a spell at Espanyol where he was sacked with them bottom of the league. The point being here was that teams who were a little more forward-thinking could see the underlying data and believed it would translate into much better outcomes with higher quality players. Potter is the latest one to come up under this argument. The improvement Brighton have made under him from the point of view of the stats is remarkable. If you just take the xG stuff that we all have access to these days, Brighton would have finished 5th last season based on an average xG performance - the point being here is that the suspicion is that Brighton lack players good enough to convert the high quality of chances that they create. He is effectively a similar shout to when Dortmund appointed Klopp or when Southampton appointed Poch - the data suggests he's worth taking a chance on. I can't see us being brave enough to make a decision like this and I expect we will end up with Nuno or someone like that because we have the safety net of Wolves's two 7th place finishes under him to point to as far as being "proven" in the league goes. I don't neccessarily have a huge problem with this approach, but all I'd hope is that the likes of Brands wouldn't be scared to appoint Potter because he wasn't "proven". If we always take that approach, we'll always miss out on the best up and coming coaches.

 

[MikeH72]

Count him out as well he’s just signed a new contract.

Oh my god PHEW

 

[JLW]

Oh my god PHEW

One down about 4-5 more no mark losers to go

 

[kenada_blue]

We are only really one good summer window from changing that mate but I have my doubts with Brands doing the recruitment.

DCL and a on form Richarlison can effectively replicate Jimenez/Jota we certainly need pace at RW / RWB though.

People laugh but say if we brought in a Zaha/Bailey type at RW and Traore at RWB with another CM coming in with pace/mobility alongside Doucoure we would look massively better and more dangerous.

We've been "one good summer" away for years.

Anyone coming in now will just either patch up areas we're weak on (RB, CM) and probably bring in a player they've had an eye on for a while/from their old club that they know well.

The squad as is now will get another crack under a new boss.

 

[kenada_blue]

Hopefully we're going to change this in the summer.

By the way, That Podence is utter bog brush.

Walks into our current set up.

 

[Blue Parkender]

Why not Steven Gerrard

In an ideal world we would get Pochettino but he turned us down before Ancelotti apparently and there’s nothing to suggest he would pick us before Spurs even if he becomes available. You do wonder why he keeps failing to win trophies, even a one horse race in France.

Conte is obviously the big name available. This certainly wouldn’t be a bad appointment but he would only worth hiring if he agreed to work with players chosen by Brands on top of Rom if we could entice him back. What Carlo has shown us is that there is no loyalty whatsoever in football so we cannot buy another load of footballers only coming to us because of a manager who will be gone within 2 years.

Galtier seems like an interesting appointment who has done a fantastic job at Lille despite his best players being sold and is certainly somebody I could get on board with. He would be willing to work with and develop young, hungry, ambitious and quick players in the Godfrey mould that we need to be targeting going forward

Please stop with the Potter shouts. The man has done absolutely nothing to suggest he can take a club like ours to the next level. It is such a small minded appointment which would show the mediocrity of the club that we have just gotten away from with the Ancelotti appointment. The lowered expectations of the Kenwright era has affected you all. A lot of you actually wanted Big Sam! You will be the same ones moaning in 2 years time of a lack of ambition when we finish mid table again

More than anything think about the optics. What does it say to potential players going from Ancelotti to Potter. Does that sound like a club on the way up. Ancelloti to Gerrard doesn’t seem as bad. His name alone will attract players especially younger players who probably idolised him growing up

However the worst choice we could make is Moyes. Even Big Sam would be better than Davey as we know Sam would be gone in 12 months. As I said when it looked like Moyes would come back before we appointment Carlo, Moyes is a good enough manager to earn a new contract but he won’t win you anything which is what we all want. He has done exactly that at West Ham. Appointing him would be another 5 years wasted. Moyes was the right coach at the right time when he was appointed but he outstayed his welcome. I’ll never forgive him for how he blew the semi final against Liverpool. Even at one up it was clear in that first half that things were going wrong and he did absolutely nothing to change it. Who wants to go back to the plucky underdog narrative that Moyes did his best to harvest as it made him look better and excused his lack of fight against the big clubs, sitting back, inviting pressure, waiting to concede

So on to Gerrard. Despite how much most of us hate him there is no doubt he is a winner. Does anyone think he’ll stand for Sigurdsson or Gomes strolling around in midfield with the ball getting passed round them. He’s a local lad who was around in the 80s so knows what it means to see Everton as a winner. He’ll certainly have us fired up in the Derby. Despite his loyalties he does seem the type to want to lose at anything. Let’s not forget he was happy to leave Liverpool twice for Chelsea before he got threats (allegedly)

At least get him in for an interview. What’s the worst that can happen. One meeting will tell you if he’s up for the fight. Failing that the meeting will give you a useful insight into a potential manager of our arch rivals and it’ll unite the fan base behind anyone that it eventually chosen if we don’t appoint him!

He has just won a trophy which is what we want. Yes it was Scotland and you can say it’s a two horse race but it hasn’t been a two horse race up there in 10 years. Going undefeated and only conceding 4 goals at home all season (if I read that correctly) is unbelievable especially in a COVID no fan year. It’s clear we need to sort out our home form

Moving to Everton is a step up in players he is managing so there is no issue with a big manager like Ancelotti or Conte suddenly having to deal with lesser players. He will be happy working with and developing the young, hungry players that Brands has to bring in.

Are we a stepping stone to Liverpool, yes probably. However it’s not going to be like Barmby who left us out of the blue. Both sides know it’s a marriage of convenience. He needs to win a trophy/ get into the Champions League to persuade Liverpool to hire him and we are desperate for either. It’s a win-win. Most managers are going to leave after a couple of years and any player or manager who joins us should be looking to go from us to a massive club. It’s just where we are at present

So onto the biggest issue, the fact that he’s a Liverpool legend. We all love Beardsley, Watson, Sheedy and Ablett. I agree it’s probably not the same. Let me try it another way. If Klopp fell out with FSG tomorrow but wanted to stay in the area and would take the job if Moshiri was willing to make him the highest paid manager in the world, how many of us would take him as manager. Most of us would if we’re honest. He too is a Liverpool legend

I would be genuinely be interested to see how many of you would have him

I for one would have no problem with Stevie G, I hate the man but he is a born winner and would not let this bunch of slugs stroll around and get away with putting in the performances they have.

 

[4737carlin]

I though that an odd mistake by that account too.
I know exactly where he lives.

I like to walk along the Wirral Way, it's around there, I think, I've proberly eye balled his daughter out for a stroll

 

[MikeH72]

One down about 4-5 more no mark losers to go

To be fair I couldn’t care less about having a “big name” anymore. We just had Carlo Ancelotti and finished 10th playing the worst brand of football I’ve ever seen. I doubt I’ll ever get excited for a new manager again after that.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Walks into our current set up.

In YOUR extremely humble opinion.

 

[toffeeblue9]

This.

Considering he's not even in a job, it just baffles me that his name is never even mentioned in conversation, nevermind remotely being linked with. Yet I hear people mentioning absolutely dross like Moyes, Martinez, Howe etc.

Looking at Everton's previous managers and points per game:

David Moyes - 1.5 points per game
Roberto Martinez - 1.44 points per game
Ronald Koeman - 1.47 points per game
Fat Sam - 1.42 points per game
Marco Silva - 1.33 points per game
Carlo Ancelotti - 1.60 points per game

Looking at the clubs which Valverde has managed over the past 10 years:

Athletic Bilbao - 1.64 points per game
Valencia - 1.87 points per game
Olympiacos - 2.34 points per game
Barcelona - 2.23 points per game

Also winning 10 trophies in the process (albiet 4 trophies with Bacelona over 2 years). Don't get me wrong, Olympiacos and Barca are giants in their respective leagues so you could say that he's bound to do well there.

Just think it's absolutely mad that his name doesn't even get mentioned, yet I see people backing Moyes, Martinez, Howe etc.

Marco Silva's record at Olympiacos - 2.83 points per game

 

[Chewbacca]

Howard Kendall had managed Blackburn Rovers and had won nothing

 

[Jim Hopper]

I for one would have no problem with Stevie G, I hate the man but he is a born winner and would not let this bunch of slugs stroll around and get away with putting in the performances they have.

What’s he gonna do that Silva and Ancelotti couldn’t do? They weren’t arsed when those managers wanted more, some ex-kopite who despises our club and is equally despised by most all of our fan base ain’t getting a peep out of our current crock of bums.

Plus the second he gets the chance to join his beloved team across the park he’ll ditch us in an instant.