Champions League revamp

[Dymak]

We know this. It doesn't matter. If they go ahead the self harm would be greater by allowing it.

Agreed, and it's not clear who will actually be commiting the greater degree of self-harm.

The true fans of these clubs don't want it and know that they are being cast aside, so there's that form of self-harm to their own club identities and brands. Then there's the risk that this bloody Super league turns out to be pants!

I mean, even the name of it sounds pants! The 'Super League', it's something you'd call a 5-aside tournament for 6 year olds.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Down from what yesterday?

$20 at the start of March. $16.80 today.

 

[tsubaki]

They'll continually develop the ESL though, and assuming it's outside FIFA, will expand to different types of competitions to 'enhance the product' - cups tournaments, invite some new members, potentially even create new teams from scratch filled with league-owned stars. They won't stand still.

They won't, and probably quite quickly they'll find no need for the PL (after trashing it as a spectacle first).

That is why they've got to be kicked out if they are not going to drop this. We are now in a competition with the SL.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Well yeah. The likes of Barcelona are in a right mess financially speaking. I'm a bit confused as to how Barca are signed up to it, as I thought they were owned by their fans in the same way German clubs are, and the fans seem universally opposed to it.

Its a different system, afaik Barca fans only real power is the vote for president. German clubs are fan owned essentially.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[ToffeeTim]

If they expel them, the gap will be even bigger because the TV money would go from The Premier League, to the Super League.

That's why the six won't be expelled, there's zero appetite for it from the 14 clubs.

If the ESL goes ahead (I don't think it will btw), then they have to expel all 6 teams. Allowing ESL teams to stay in a devalued and largely meaningless PL is worse than taking the financial hit to put them out. The financial hit is enormous either way if this league starts so you have to keep your dignity and accept the hurt.

Until that point though, there will be posturing but not much in the way of punishments from the PL. It will be points deductions at worst, and expelling them is the very last resort way down the line.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

$20 at the start of March. $16.80 today.

Go and work for the big 6.

 

[Toffeeslam]

If these traitorous POS 6 clubs get away with this with no punishment then football really is gone

 

[wandyr79]

The last 2 days has been utter mental, the sport I love being ripped to shreds by a few greedy people.

However, I am now sat here looking forward to watching the sport I love and a good honest bottom of League 2 clash.

When all this nonsense has passed and whatever the outcome there are clubs out there who respect the fans, know the true value of fans and know the true value of competition and earning your right to play as high as you can.

If football at the top dies, there are clubs waiting for you all over the country.

 

[Jebus_lives]

If they expel them, the gap will be even bigger because the TV money would go from The Premier League, to the Super League.

That's why the six won't be expelled, there's zero appetite for it from the 14 clubs.

Problem is if they keep them in and bow down, they'll try it every other year and totally undermine the PL credibility.

Too much pushing in either direction could be equally damaging to the PL.

 

[USABlue]

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Go and work for the big 6.

What?

 

[MrGrumpy]

If they expel them, the gap will be even bigger because the TV money would go from The Premier League, to the Super League.

That's why the six won't be expelled, there's zero appetite for it from the 14 clubs.

That totally depends on what UEFA and FIFA do, should the go ahead and ban the players from World Cup/euros all the big players will put in transfer request and jump ship.
Who would want to watch it then?

 

[JLW]

Let's look at this purely from an Everton point of view.

If the 6 join the ESL, we'll have effectively been downgraded to permanent tier 2 status with no chance to progress to tier 1.
The Premier League will be diminished as a competition in standing and perception, and future TV deals will be massively inferior to what we've become used to over the last couple of decades.

This is an existential threat to Everton as an institution whatever way you look at it. We'll be in a fundamentally different and permanently-diminished situation. Who knows what that could mean for the future, in our ability to finance a new stadium and a first class training complex and academy. Our ability to grow our fanbase will take a hit.

This state of affairs will be replicated to every non-ESL club in England, Italy and Spain.

In any way you look at this, there is absolutely no upside to for anyone other than the ESL and their partners.

I completely disagree mate.
Football and Everton has been around for over a century with and without money with and without TV broadcasting. Football is bigger and always be than a few individual clubs. They won’t take away the passion of supporting your local team whether it be Everton or Luton. Maybe the quality of players that play in thPL might defer or the prize money but it doesn’t remove the fact that Everton will be competing in the top tier of domestic level football, We will still have full houses of passionate fans. Remember football wasn’t invented in 1992

 

[Goat]

Says it all though that when Boris Johnson, the serving PM, says this will be stopped and won't happen, that absolutely nobody believes him.

Cos there is nothing he can, not a thing.

Empty threat.