Champions League revamp

[nsno-chris]

SuperChampion

lol lol lol lol lol

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Loose lips sink ships.

That's dreadful logic.

 

[zukai12_]

this is grim but who knows, by 2030 we might be laughing as the RS move into the "Anfield Dubai Experience Stadium" or play every match at 3am to appeal to East Asian audiences

 

[roydo]

That's dreadful logic.

Well maybe. But it worked. No one had a clue did they? No leaks, nada.

 

[Jim Hopper]

I wonder if this ESL concept has any in-built flex that they haven't revealed yet, so they can be seen to 'compromise'. Their approach so far is just so brazenly arrogant and completely self-inflating, leaving the rest of football to accept a permanent and irreversible downgrade from which they can never progress.

I don't think there is really a cat in hells chance of it happening in the way it is currently being described. If we go the boring, realistic route, eventually UEFA and FIFA will come to the table and there will be an ESL-weighted compromise. Maybe this will ultimately be a UEFA-endorsed league, but very much in favour of the 'founding' ESL clubs. It could become open so teams can legitimately qualify and get relegated on sporting merit, but the 'founders' will always have a special status where they get massive payments even if they've not qualified.

That would go against everything they’ve been speaking against over the last two days, yet it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if it happened. Got no faith in any footballing organisation.

 

[roydo]

@Walham Green Blue

Protests at the Bridge right now. Nice one.

 

[JLW]

this is grim but who knows, by 2030 we might be laughing as the RS move into the "Anfield Dubai Experience Stadium" or play every match at 3am to appeal to East Asian audiences

The mad thing is mate that’s not even far fetched

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The bit I find really surprising is the post announcement planning.

I get why you wouldn’t brief them prior, too much chance of it becoming public knowledge. But 48 hours later still not having met with your employees or apparently had any prebuilt talking points of why it would be good for them at the very least (even if it shafts everyone else) is just an epic communication fail.

That's not a great reason in my opinion. It's leadership 101 that you bring your people with you on any strategy. If you're deliberately keeping them in the dark over something so fundamental to their job because you believe the shitstorm should it come out is so grave then you surely question whether it's the right thing you're doing? It's staggeringly incompetent.

 

[Brisan123]

I'm just pleased that Paris St German and the glorious owners are the moral bastions of football.

I would say PSG and Bayern not joining was a major kick in the goolies for the 12 that left

 

[Jamiednm]

Let's look at this purely from an Everton point of view.

If the 6 join the ESL, we'll have effectively been downgraded to permanent tier 2 status with no chance to progress to tier 1.
The Premier League will be diminished as a competition in standing and perception, and future TV deals will be massively inferior to what we've become used to over the last couple of decades.

This is an existential threat to Everton as an institution whatever way you look at it. We'll be in a fundamentally different and permanently-diminished situation. Who knows what that could mean for the future, in our ability to finance a new stadium and a first class training complex and academy. Our ability to grow our fanbase will take a hit.

This state of affairs will be replicated to every non-ESL club in England, Italy and Spain.

In any way you look at this, there is absolutely no upside to for anyone other than the ESL and their partners.

 

[tsubaki]

I wonder if this ESL concept has any in-built flex that they haven't revealed yet, so they can be seen to 'compromise'. Their approach so far is just so brazenly arrogant and completely self-inflating, leaving the rest of football to accept a permanent and irreversible downgrade from which they can never progress.

I don't think there is really a cat in hells chance of it happening in the way it is currently being described. If we go the boring, realistic route, eventually UEFA and FIFA will come to the table and there will be an ESL-weighted compromise. Maybe this will ultimately be a UEFA-endorsed league, but very much in favour of the 'founding' ESL clubs. It could become open so teams can legitimately qualify and get relegated on sporting merit, but the 'founders' will always have a special status where they get massive payments even if they've not qualified.

I hope not. There is enough unity between governments, FAs, clubs and fans to do to either push these clubs out or get them to beg forgiveness. Either works.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Christ. Going to end up with loons deciding they want it to go ahead 'because protesters have turned the public against their cause'

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Well maybe. But it worked. No one had a clue did they? No leaks, nada.

What's worked? You've got the most important people in your club saying they think it's a terrible idea. What is working exactly? Former players are going against you, fans are against you, players are against, you, the coach is against you, the media are against you, other clubs are against you, the government are against you. How is that in any way "working"?

 

[roydo]

Let's look at this purely from an Everton point of view.

If the 6 join the ESL, we'll have effectively been downgraded to permanent tier 2 status with no chance to progress to tier 1.
The Premier League will be diminished as a competition in standing and perception, and future TV deals will be massively inferior to what we've become used to over the last couple of decades.

This is an existential threat to Everton as an institution whatever way you look at it. We'll be in a fundamentally different and permanently-diminished situation. Who knows what that could mean for the future, in our ability to finance a new stadium and a first class training complex and academy. Our ability to grow our fanbase will take a hit.

This state of affairs will be replicated to every non-ESL club in England, Italy and Spain.

In any way you look at this, there is absolutely no upside to for anyone other than the ESL and their partners.

You are making the massive assumption that even if the scab league starts, it will fly.

I have doubts on both.