Champions League revamp

[tsubaki]

Exactly this.

The alternative is accepting annihilation long term.

What's the point in bending over to them now to survive for a few years if you're absolutely 100% certain to be destroyed/irrelevant forevermore?

They've surely overplayed their hand.

Plus they’ll walk away anyway when it becomes clear the PL isn’t a quality league.

 

[Jim Hopper]

They stay in the league and get to join this super league they’re only gonna play their B teams and reserve players anyways. It automatically devalues the Premier League. Regardless if they get kicked out or not the PL is damaged goods.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Will doing what's right, and integrity win the day?

*Looks at Premier League*

Oh.

 

[Tubey]

People are forgetting that the 14 will lose out if the 6 are expelled because the moneymen will follow the demand/audiences.

Expel them, and the 6 get the mega money and the 14 get even less money than they currently do.

The TV deal isn't maintained when the ESL have their own provider and the numbers.

No, we all know there'd be the equivalent of a market crash.

But the fact is domestic football wouldn't die; it'd be reset. There'd be less money, then it'd recover over time.

The alternative for these 14 clubs and every other club in the pyramid is irrelevance. Perpetual Division 2.

It's like Hitler invading Poland - you warn them, you don't want to go to war, it'll be a disaster for everyone, but your hand is pushed. You have to act. And this is footballing war.

 

[hktoffee]

People are forgetting that the 14 will lose out if the 6 are expelled because the moneymen will follow the demand/audiences.

Expel them, and the 6 get the mega money and the 14 get even less money than they currently do.

The TV deal isn't maintained when the ESL have their own provider and the numbers.

That's the cards the 14 have.

The solution to this has to be state driven. It has to be fan ownership.

Mod so you think they will let the ESL to go ahead? Those teams stay in the PL with no punishment?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

No, we all know there'd be the equivalent of a market crash.

But the fact is domestic football wouldn't die; it'd be reset. There'd be less money, then it'd recover over time.

The alternative for these 14 clubs and every other club in the pyramid is irrelevance. Perpetual Division 2.

It's like Hitler invading Poland - you warn them, you don't want to go to war, it'll be a disaster for everyone, but your hand is pushed. You have to act. And this is footballing war.

I agree.

I'm saying what I think will happen.

Do I think Premier League will have courage in their conviction and play the bigger picture?

Absolutely not.

TV money controls the game now, and the audiences are with the 6.

 

[hirons11]

There has never been a big four with Spurs in it lol

I think in scientific terms you'd describe Spurs as an "Outlier"

 

[RomanReigns]

I hope the six get punished

However I can’t see the prem doing anything until after the season has finished

 

[Jebus_lives]

What's another £350m?

They already have a massive head start mate.

Compare Man City etc's wealth to the bottom 10 of the league.

Hard position to be in for the PL:

Kick them out - lost revenue, damage your product.

Leave them in - all power moves away from the PL, SL clubs will see it as pointless and PL product is devalued anyway.

 

[Nymzee]

Of course the two English CL semi-finalists will be getting cold feet.

 

[marmor]

Deloitte 2021 Football Money League rankings: The world's top 20 richest football clubs​

Ranking	Team	Total revenue
1	Barcelona	€715.1m
2	Real Madrid	€714.9m
3	Bayern Munich	€634.1m
4	Manchester United	€580.4m
5	Liverpool	€558.6m
6	Manchester City	€549.2m
7	Paris Saint-Germain	€540.6m
8	Chelsea	€469.7m
9	Tottenham	€445.7m
10	Juventus	€397.9m
11	Arsenal	€388m
12	Borussia Dortmund	€365.7m
13	Atletico Madrid	€331.8m
14	Inter	€291.5m
15	Zenit Saint-Petersburg	€236.5m
16	Schalke	€222.8m
17	Everton	€212m
18	Lyon	€180.7m
19	Napoli	€176.3m
20	Eintracht Frankfurt	€174m

How the hell are barca and real losing money?

 

[trueblue84]

You think it's happening without 80% of the audience figures? Not a chance.

That's why I'm astonished people really think Everton will play in a domestic league without Man Utd, Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs.

If that happens, money falls out the arse of the Premier League (TV money goes) and the gap between Everton and those clubs get even bigger than if they remained.

Do you really care? The way I see it, let them go. 12 teams can't own all the best players. We might see something more like what football used to be.... Kids coming through the ranks, signing a true world class player out of nowhere, clubs rising and falling, giant killings. No pulling up the draw bridge to stop others having success. I'd like to see the premiere league 14 join with the rest of the football league from now on.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Mod so you think they will let the SPL to go ahead? Those teams stay in the PL with no punishment?

No clue mate.

But I'd be astonished if the Premier League expelled them. I hope they do, it's needed but I think either the Champions League will be significantly repackaged as a compromise, or the SPL will go ahead with the 6 competing in that, and the Premier League IMO.

I can't see the 6 being left without a domestic league/the Premier League continuing without them.

 

[Seathestars]

They’ve bitten off more than they can chew this horrible six.

Must have thought they held all the aces but played their hand without any clue about how much the public love their football.
This will see them put right back in their box I think.
But punishment is needed, harsh punishment

 

[Thomasc]

Come on, you surely realise how much of a waste of time this is? We’re talking about people with infinite wealth here.

Yeah I agree, but I think that’s what they will do.
The points deduction and them being out of the CL next season will hit them.