ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[Lineker]

Mel Gibson blames the jews

Hmm

 

[zippy00]

 

[JLW]

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Ok well they've gone 31 years without winning the *league with fans, now that's impressive!!!!!!!!!

 

[Saint Domingo]

My only worry is that they start cycling back on for the champions league and the end of the season. Wasn’t it about a year ago that they started being rubbish? City had twoyears of brilliant form, were poor for a season and now are suddenly back to being brilliant again. Liverpool had two years of being brilliant, have been poor for a year now, I hope it’s not the start of them just cycling back on. If they miss CL qualification this season they’re in bother.

 

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[N.S.N.O.]

Touchy touchy...

 

[PaulPowersTash]

Andy Gray didn’t have hoardes of armchair kopites hanging off his every word. It’s no shock to me that their prime time pundits are: Carragher, Neville, Keane, Souness, Redknapp. What do all of these have in common? Nice to see Micah Richards disrupt it a bit (even though I think he just says whatever is blatantly obvious and seems more interested in banter than punditry).

Exactly right about Micah Richards. They have him there for novelty / comedy value.
I've listened to Nedum Onuoha a few times on the radio. A very articulate, Knowledgeable,
objective, sensible pundit. Exactly why he will never work for SKY

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[Saint Domingo]

Exactly right about Micah Richards. They have him there for novelty / comedy value.

There’s not many pundits that we learn anything new from now. Most of them are no better than fan tv personalities now saying whatever they know will end up in a meme or YouTube video. When did any of them last say something about the actual game that you didn’t know and wasn’t immediately apparent by watching? Three blokes in the pub could do exactly the same job which is basically what soccer Saturday used to be anyway. Perhaps the odd time they had Ruud Gullit or the BBC had Vialli on they had a different respective but most of the time it’s just either mundane obvious nonsense or hyped up fanboying.

 

[John from Bootle]

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That banner in the bottom right reads: "Wine for my men, we ride at dawn."



Mentalists.

 

[Shibbywiggles]

Touchy touchy...

He really is a massive prick

I wonder what the feeling is from ‘The Anfield Talk’ here posting this though. He’s saying how Klopp is having a go at reporters repeatedly but is he saying ‘this is getting embarrassing now, our manager has lost the plot and is a whiny bell end’ or is he saying ‘pundits keep asking us stupid questions and trying to wind up our Klopp lar’?

 

[Yarrgh]

He really is a massive prick

I wonder what the feeling is from ‘The Anfield Talk’ here posting this though. He’s saying how Klopp is having a go at reporters repeatedly but is he saying ‘this is getting embarrassing now, our manager has lost the plot and is a whiny bell end’ or is he saying ‘pundits keep asking us stupid questions and trying to wind up our Klopp lar’?

You ask the latter question often enough, and the realisation that it's the first point that is true will dawn in time.

 

[maltablue]

The first WC I remember is Mexico 1970 (I was 10 )
England had Banks .Peter the cat Bonetti and Alex Stepney as their goalkeepers, with a young Shilton who had displaced Banks at Leicester as back up,
How England wish they had that calibre of GK at their disposal now

...........Westy, used to get badly homesick so never travelled to mexico

 

[catcherintherye]

Which is getting mullered stateside as well.

Yes I mean having investments overwhelmingly based in sports, essentially "discernible spend" is not going to be good now. You sense the US is going to be going through some rocky times, after a pretty shambolic 4 years.

 

[Yarrgh]

Exactly right about Micah Richards. They have him there for novelty / comedy value.
I've listened to Nedum Onuoha a few times on the radio. A very articulate, Knowledgeable,
objective, sensible pundit. Exactly why he will never work for SKY

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I heard a few stories about Nedum Onuoha from a few City fans. He is apparently a super nice guy from those accounts. Absolutely no one had a bad word to say about him. Probably why he is not on Sky- only scoundrels should fear an honest man!

 

[catcherintherye]

For owners with a model that is openly profit orientated, it is not unsurprising that they are concerned because their revenue stream is under increased risk.

The value of their major assets (their players) are likely to depreciate, so their primary model of selling to fund new acquisitions will reap less rewards.

The myth of Klopp the magician is being unravelled in front of their eyes, with players looking exhausted and disenchanted; recent acquisitions aren't great.

Lack of bums on seats, with the fans who come over a spend fair amounts on merchandise etc, will be impacting on their finances and perhaps their sponsors.

If they do not achieve CL with all the revenue it directly brings before the indirect streams (more people loving them and buying merchandise), they will suffer.

Can you see FSG being willing to strim their own profits down to help the club succeed? Maybe to an extent, but they'll want to support their wider portfolio too.

Sadly, I still think they will squeeze into the CL because of how jammy they are, but the medium-term projections may not be as rosy as they would suggest.

If Klopp goes alongside one or two of their major assets at a reduce price, you have a squad with a fair few key players who are nearly past their peak.

Great post mate.

Without doubt, tmheir model- and the American model more generally is to suck out more than they put in. So in times of difficulty thats a problem. I have to say though, FSG are particularly exposed, as they essentially hedged the good times. Often you see that, people who make the right calls in the good times, tend to be more exposed in the reverse.

They have massivdly over extended themselves on wages, far beyond say an Arsenal. They have also spent heavily on younger players, on the assumption they all get sold for more money. To sustain that wage bill, they need to be chruning out regular sales of younger players, alongside a big sale every 2-3 years. Neither look likely to happen at present,

Essentially when they reached the CL final, they had a wage bill of around £250m. It will now likely be well kove £350m. At £250m, with record CL revenues they had some space to invest moderately, partially helped by the 100m for Coutinho. Since then, very little spend, largely because every year they are committed to that wage bill and they need all that revenue. As you say this year, no fans, limited merchandising money, sponsors either deferring and/or reducing spend and probably 2 years of no CL finals. That will hit.

On top of that missing out on top 4, would certainly hit. The language being used is still very alarming though.