ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[Prevenger17]

I don't think moving on from this is on their agenda tbh. Honestly never seen anything like this, it's an injury ffs. It's not an Everton season if one of our players isn't sidelined for 2 years

 

[Yarrgh]

He has project manager written all over him. Mainz, Dortmund, Liverpool. Entering clubs off the pace of the very best, doing a job and then leaving.

To be fair, I dont think there are too many coaches strong enough to handle the dynasty route. It takes a special character (a mentally tough character and one able to adapt and roll with the changes you constantly have to make in terms of style to remain relevant over a long time) to remain at one club and oversee years of dominance. Klopp doesn't fit that profile.

One bad season where Liverpool are off the pace and he'll use it as the excuse he needs to move on. Could even be as early as the end of this season.

A few more wobbles and it might even be sooner.

 

[maccavennie]

A few more wobbles and it might even be sooner.

He looked like a very angry man yesterday slapping the table a few times.

He's feeling the pressure far too early in the season and he's going to explode once a couple of more results go against him

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Did the spread of covid after their game against Athletico get this much coverage?
Hes not dead ffs,hes not in a coma.

 

[tsubaki]

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I don't think moving on from this is on their agenda tbh. Honestly never seen anything like this, it's an injury ffs. It's not an Everton season if one of our players isn't sidelined for 2 years

The is nothing better that we could do than support there call for accountability in refereeing; full video review with the ability to get the ref to stop play for dives etc. They’d be screwed.

 

[davek]

From Klopp’s interview it sounds as though Thiago might not be back for the weekend either.

‘Brutal Merseyside Derby’

Just looking at his last 3 seasons:

2019/20 51 days out injured
2018/19 34 days out injured
2017/18 122 days out injured

...he also had 3 massive knee injury lay offs in 2013/14-2014/15 seasons.

He's going to be one of those players they'll be lucky to have on the pitch. And anything around the knee will be a struggle for him.

Very good player, but I'd have doubts about injury record / attitude to get out on the pitch week in and week out.

 

[davek]

From Klopp’s interview it sounds as though Thiago might not be back for the weekend either.

‘Brutal Merseyside Derby’

Just looking at his last 3 seasons:

2019/20 51 days out injured
2018/19 34 days out injured
2017/18 122 days out injured

...he also had 3 massive knee injury lay offs in 2013/14-2014/15 seasons.

He's going to be one of those players they'll be lucky to have n the pitch. And anything around the knee will be a struggle for him.

Very good player, but Ild have doubts about injury record / attitude to get out on the pitch week in and week out.

 

[davek]

Whoever takes over from him is on an absolute hiding to nothing as well. They will never find a manager more perfectly suited to them ever again.

The foreheadless wonder is nailed on for the job and the collapse is going to be unbelievable.

It's almost worth seeing Rangers win the title this season for that to happen.

 

[Yarrgh]

He looked like a very angry man yesterday slapping the table a few times.

He's feeling the pressure far too early in the season and he's going to explode once a couple of more results go against him

The key will be the point the press sense blood. I think once they decide he's fair game is the minute he goes supernova.

 

[davek]

A few more wobbles and it might even be sooner.

He's not a diplomat - which will hasten his departure.

I expect him to have a dig at the owners soon.

 

[number4.]

He has project manager written all over him. Mainz, Dortmund, Liverpool. Entering clubs off the pace of the very best, doing a job and then leaving.

To be fair, I dont think there are too many coaches strong enough to handle the dynasty route. It takes a special character (a mentally tough character and one able to adapt and roll with the changes you constantly have to make in terms of style to remain relevant over a long time) to remain at one club and oversee years of dominance. Klopp doesn't fit that profile.

One bad season where Liverpool are off the pace and he'll use it as the excuse he needs to move on. Could even be as early as the end of this season.

Could well be the case mate - I did a bit of reading on how it broke down at Dortmund the other day & essentially he had as bad an injury crisis as you can imagine. He had Lukasz Piszczek, Mats Hummels, Neven Subotic, Marian Sarr, Marcel Schmelzer, Sven Bender, Ilkay Gundogan, Sebastian Kehl and Henrikh Mkhitaryan all out at the same time & a good few with knee injuries.

I would wonder is this a case of burn out rather than bad luck. They have now had two significant knee injuries recently.

 

[maccavennie]

The key will be the point the press sense blood. I think once they decide he's fair game is the minute he goes supernova.

Yep, they'll turn on him for sure. They always do once there's a story to be had.

 

[davek]

Could well be the case mate - I did a bit of reading on how it broke down at Dortmund the other day & essentially he had as bad an injury crisis as you can imagine. He had Lukasz Piszczek, Mats Hummels, Neven Subotic, Marian Sarr, Marcel Schmelzer, Sven Bender, Ilkay Gundogan, Sebastian Kehl and Henrikh Mkhitaryan all out at the same time & a good few with knee injuries.

I would wonder is this a case of burn out rather than bad luck. They have now had two significant knee injuries recently.

That'd account for how mental he goes at the very prospect of a key player or two in the treatment room. It must be on his mind how quickly things unravel.

As said: he's not a mentally tough man.

 

[Yarrgh]

He's not a diplomat - which will hasten hos departure.

I expect him to have a dig at the owners soon.

Oh it would be joyful if he accused them of the actual underhandedness they partook in with United to get this European Super League/ Big Picture power grab.

 

[davek]

Oh it would be joyful if he accused them of the actual underhandedness they partook in with United to get this European Super League/ Big Picture power grab.

He'll use that to tell the fanbase - who in turn will lap it up.

I can see his attack on Henry / Werner coming in terms of transfer market 'inactivity'.