The Hateful Eight

[JAYMULL]

Granada reports last night reported on this but omitted Klopp and Liverpool from the story showed Mourinho talking about it instead. Really don't like to give negative press to the the Kopites. Stinks.

 

[ToffeeTim]

They did.
The hateful eight according to The Daily Mail is Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Burnley, Leicester and Newcastle. Wolves were originally part of it (nine clubs) but not involved now it seems.

MARTIN SAMUEL: 'Hateful eight' step up war against Manchester City

MARTIN SAMUEL - CHIEF SPORTS WRITER: This is not over. There is still a Premier League investigation into City ongoing. There is still a chance to pressurise.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Good article that. Nail on the head.

 

[toffee-L]

A Liverpool fan pretending to be a Tottenham fan on an Everton fan forum.

Officially seen it all now.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

How refreshing to see that we aren't one of 'the hateful eight' referred to in the media, who ganged up to stick the boot in on Citeh.
These are the clubs who wrote to CAS in March to demand that Citeh be excluded immediately from European football.
Rs (obviously), red mancs (obviously), Arsenal, Spurs, Leicester, Wolves, Burnley (???) and the barcodes.
Good to see our lovely people wanted to hear all the facts before sticking the boot in don't you think?
(I bet Pep was crapping himself when he realised Burnley had sent a letter in!)

Wolves? Glass houses, stones. They have indulged in some interesting practices with transfers whilst in the Championship. So much so, my West Brom supporting chums call them the 'Gold Cheats'. https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ndes-wolves-influence-chinese-owners-signings

 

[TippEverton]

Its all a load of nonsense really. Anyone that says that they are viewing this through neutral eyes or an unbiased standpoint is deluding themselves.

Time To Break FFP?

We're so far from the level required for Europe that it might be time to take the 1 year ban and break FFP. Do you agree?

www.grandoldteam.com

There is even a thread on here about it.

FFP is a joke so i can't say i am bothered either way.

£500k a week for players salaries & £200mn transfer fees on their way, The working mans game.

You write that as if those fees are completely new to modern football when they aren't.

It hasn't been the working man's game for years now.

 

[The binman chronicles]

£500k a week for players salaries & £200mn transfer fees on their way, The working mans game.

This is the important factor in all of this, there should a salary cap 100%.

If a team was allowed to spend say 100 million max on wages PA then you would get top players in their prime playing for other teams who have space in their budgets to entice them with a better pay packet. Put a cap on agent fees so they can only earn 500k from a single transfer and then we will stop heamorrhaging money from the game that the fans need to cover with ever higher match day prices.

Do that plus get owners to underwrite debt and I think that would be a half decent working solution.

 

[Yid4life]

This is the important factor in all of this, there should a salary cap 100%.

If a team was allowed to spend say 100 million max on wages PA then you would get top players in their prime playing for other teams who have space in their budgets to entice them with a better pay packet. Put a cap on agent fees so they can only earn 500k from a single transfer and then we will stop heamorrhaging money from the game that the fans need to cover with ever higher match day prices.

Do that plus get owners to underwrite debt and I think that would be a half decent working solution.

Good ideas there.

I have thought modern football is rubbish for 4 or 5 seasons at least now. Probably longer. I honestly don't know why I keep renewing. I suppose it because although I hate the Premier League and all it entails I still love Tottenham. My club.

What this ruling basically means is that if you don't have billions of pounds to throw at transfers and wages you are only there to make up the numbers.

Chelsea, Man C, Newcastle (soon), Wolves, Everton (?), Man U and Liverpool. A battle of the richest.

 

[H.H.]

A Liverpool fan pretending to be a Tottenham fan on an Everton fan forum.

Officially seen it all now.

As said, some of you are obsessed that people are "R.S."

Everton and Spurs both have a lot in common.
Both have have main rivals that are bigger and both have main rivals that are a lot more successful BUT I can assure you that if one day, Everton get better, finally start beating the "R.S." and start competing at the same level, your obsession about them will start fading and you will start to actually not think about them that much at all .

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Here's hoping City reward us by not trying to poach Holgate

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

This is the important factor in all of this, there should a salary cap 100%.

If a team was allowed to spend say 100 million max on wages PA then you would get top players in their prime playing for other teams who have space in their budgets to entice them with a better pay packet. Put a cap on agent fees so they can only earn 500k from a single transfer and then we will stop heamorrhaging money from the game that the fans need to cover with ever higher match day prices.

Do that plus get owners to underwrite debt and I think that would be a half decent working solution.

I can't see the Players Union agreeing with a salary cap. They'll want the door open for players to make as much as possible

 

[Goat]

Hes a Spurs fan. I think.

Hes a prize bellend.

 

[Minimeister]

This is the important factor in all of this, there should a salary cap 100%.

If a team was allowed to spend say 100 million max on wages PA then you would get top players in their prime playing for other teams who have space in their budgets to entice them with a better pay packet. Put a cap on agent fees so they can only earn 500k from a single transfer and then we will stop heamorrhaging money from the game that the fans need to cover with ever higher match day prices.

Do that plus get owners to underwrite debt and I think that would be a half decent working solution.

I've been watching re-runs of the NFL play offs from 4/5 years ago and some teams who were terrible last season were great then and vice versa. That would be real competition, not sure that's what Herr Klopp was talking about....

 

[DrEFC]

I'm sure the rs customers with their consistent views on grassing will be appalled at their club's behaviour.

Not bothered about scouting fraud neither.
Homework copying, ladder-pulling up, PED-adled, Tory pishbags

 

[Alan Whittle]

Hateful Eight is a bit of a mouthful. Could we not just agree on Eightful?
Palace would have objected I’m sure but we didn’t know what “Champions League” was, (or Champions for that matter) and we’d run out of pencils.

 

[The binman chronicles]

What this ruling basically means is that if you don't have billions of pounds to throw at transfers and wages you are only there to make up the numbers.

Whether we have FFP or not it's baked in that the teams with most money will be there or thereabouts. It just so happened that Spurs had made a decent jump at the right moment to gain more income through the CL and larger sponsorship deals at the point it got closed off, leaving similar sized clubs like us and Villa cut adrift in comparison.

We can only grow our income by getting European football to buy better players to challenge but to do that you need to earn more money. Also these large sponsorship deals run for multiple years, so your kit deal alone is probably worth the same as all our deals put together. These may run for the length of a dip in performance for a team already in the club but also a peak of ours at cut rate price where we get a decent position one year but then may struggle the year after. The only way to get above a club would be for them to consistently underachieve while another overachieves until the sponsorship income starts to swing around. Of course you get exceptions to that rule like Leicester but it's more likely they will settle back to being a mid table team at best over time.

The way to stop the rich clubs from being always at the top is a salary cap, that way they can't hoover up all the best players and they will be spread around more teams. Of course the very best players will still likely end up with the most prestigious clubs and that in built advantage never goes away but gives others the chance if they are well run to have a chance of silverware.