Everton Transfer Thread - Summer 2020

[OzyToffee]

MEUNIER HEADING FOR DORTMUND

Thomas Meunier will join Borussia Dortmund on a four-year deal, Sky in Germany have confirmed.
The Belgium international Meunier is out of contract with Paris Saint-Germain this summer.
Meunier will not play for PSG in the rescheduled Champions League in August after reportedly rejecting a short-term extension to his deal.

One option gone by the looks of it.

 

[blue1948]

Big yes on Szoboszlai

It says in the Echo that he is replacement for Siggy,is that on the bench or the brunt of the most criticism on here ?

 

[bicycleheader]

Can anyone link me to the original source from Sport?

The Express are useless - they're reporting it. The other rags are then citing The Extress who cite Sport, but I cant find it on their website?

The only mention from Sport I can see doesn't name us;

Barça in rush to sell Jean Clair Todibo & Philippe Coutinho this month

The Catalan club need to sell before June 30 to balance accounts

www.sport.es

‪https://www.sport.es/en/news/barca/...-todibo--philippe-coutinho-this-month-8009248

looks like same link but for me it says Everton have made an offer, but the player is waiting for other options. And also Barça want 25mil but Everton offer 20mil and 5 in addons

...but it’s Sport so pretty scheisse

 

[GrandOldTeam]

‪https://www.sport.es/en/news/barca/...-todibo--philippe-coutinho-this-month-8009248

looks like same link but for me it says Everton have made an offer, but the player is waiting for other options. And also Barça want 25mil but Everton offer 20mil and 5 in addons

...but it’s Sport so pretty scheisse

Are you sure? Wheres that?

Isn't it linking us to Tobido mate?

For Coutinho, they say;

The big doubts centre on Coutinho. Barça have known for a while Bayern Munich would not execute an option to make his loan move permanent. They have been looking for a buyer since February and there were options but the coronavirus pandemic halted everything.

Barça wanted 90 million at first. In theory, the interested clubs are Chelsea, Tottenham and Newcastle, but it seems unlikely any will sign him permanently. The Blaugrana are even ready to accept 70 million or a swap deal. But now the English clubs are keener on a loan.

 

[bicycleheader]

Are you sure? Wheres that?

Isn't it linking us to Tobido mate?

For Coutinho, they say;

ah, I didn’t see the comments before yours. I assumed it was for Todibo

no nothing for the unwanted unloved kopite in relation to us in that article

 

[GrandOldTeam]

ah, I didn’t see the comments before yours. I assumed it was for Todibo

no nothing for the unwanted unloved kopite in relation to us in that article

Usual then?

Source A: Says nothing
Source B: Cites source A
Souce C,D,E,F,G,H etc: Cites Source B, Citing Source A.

Rags.

Seriously, I run this place a side gig/hobby and before updating the site with the news, I fact checked the source. Why can't the local paid media do the same?

 

[bicycleheader]

Usual then?

Source A: Says nothing
Source B: Cites source A
Souce C,D,E,F,G,H etc: Cites Source B, Citing Source A.

Rags.

and there’s nothing in the original Spanish version either. I’d say whoever is Chief Copy Paster at the Princess Diana Express hasn’t bothered reading the actual article.

 

[andy4efc]

Who has said the deal was agreed? Di Marzio, in the tweet I was quoting, you know, the whole reason we're having this conversation?

Again, what you're saying doesn't make sense. What would be the point in doing the medical before we'd agreed a deal with Lille? It makes sense on deadline day to save time, but what on earth would be the point in wasting everybody's time and money by flying a bloke over for a medical 4 months early only to find out you can't agree a deal to buy him? It may have happened, but if it did it was quite a strange thing to do, and as you've said yourself, not something I can remember Everton ever having done before.

Hold on mate i'm not being aggressive to you, no need to be like that. Simply having a conversation.

It does make sense. Players have medicals plenty of times before a deal is agreed when the clubs are expecting to reach an agreement at some point. Every club does it. I worked for Burnley for 6/9 months as well as Blackburn after, both clubs i've done the press stuff with them before a deal was reached because they both knew it was likely to go through. It's like people saying a player is being tapped up when they've been negotiating contracts before a deal is agreed, it's not, they'll have been given permission to talk (most of the time, im sure tapping up does happen often too). Take away your view of "4 months early", nothing was four months early, they would have hoped to have the deal done soon after the medical and now we are finding ourselves in unpredictable circumstances. It also makes sense to get the medical done while clubs are close to agreement as it can affect the sale price or cancel the deal completely.

And I explained what i would expect the reality is that we were getting everything sorted and had everything in place with a deal close, then COVID has put a halt on things.

Dont mistake the tone of my post btw, I am not speaking aggressively or down to you @Lanolin, just sharing my experience of being in the football world for a couple of years on how the clubs tend to do stuff. Medicals being done while clubs are talking is a common enough thing.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

and there’s nothing in the original Spanish version either. I’d say whoever is Chief Copy Paster at the Princess Diana Express hasn’t bothered reading the actual article.

Seems that way.

And the rest haven't fact checked because who cares in a world of clicks.

 

[Lanolin]

Hold on mate i'm not being aggressive to you, no need to be like that. Simply having a conversation.

It does make sense. Players have medicals plenty of times before a deal is agreed when the clubs are expecting to reach an agreement at some point. Every club does it. I worked for Burnley for 6/9 months as well as Blackburn after, both clubs i've done the press stuff with them before a deal was reached because they both knew it was likely to go through. It's like people saying a player is being tapped up when they've been negotiating contracts before a deal is agreed, it's not, they'll have been given permission to talk (most of the time, im sure tapping up does happen often too). Take away your view of "4 months early", nothing was four months early, they would have hoped to have the deal done soon after the medical and now we are finding ourselves in unpredictable circumstances. It also makes sense to get the medical done while clubs are close to agreement as it can affect the sale price or cancel the deal completely.

And I explained what i would expect the reality is that we were getting everything sorted and had everything in place with a deal close, then COVID has put a halt on things.

Dont mistake the tone of my post btw, I am not speaking aggressively or down to you @Lanolin, just sharing my experience of being in the football world for a couple of years on how the clubs tend to do stuff. Medicals being done while clubs are talking is a common enough thing.

I know you're not being aggressive? Neither am I? As I've said a few times, i'm not saying it hasn't happened, simply that it seems odd to me. Nothing that you've said really addresses the reasons for that. I don't doubt for a second that all the things you're saying are true, it's just that this particular report doesn't seem to add up to me.

Just editing this to explain what I mean. Di Marzio says we had an agreement to sign him and we pulled out. This clearly suggests the agreement was with the player and the club. Maybe he's just worded it badly but I can only go on what he actually says. Now if we had an agreement with both the player and the club, and he'd done a medical, what possible reason could there be for the deal not being officially completed and/or announced? Either the agreement wasn't reached, in which case we didn't pull out of a deal, because there wasn't one to pull out of, or the agreement was reached, and we were waiting 4 months to actually make it official. That's why I keep saying it doesn't make sense, because it doesn't.

 

[sageyefc]

Coutinho would be a massive flop

 

[toffeejack]

£25m for one year, get to f.... I'd only pay that for messi or Ronaldo

 

[Grinch]

Everton and Barcelona quibbling over Coutinho fee as bid revealed

Everton and Barcelona have apparently been negotiating a deal for Philippe Coutinho.

www.express.co.uk

61M for Coutinho in the works!

 

[ProZ]

Shameful when other papers are using tribalfootball as a source and acting like they have some sort of scoop. What happened to proper journalism.

 

[rochdaleblue]

£25m for one year, get to f.... I'd only pay that for messi or Ronaldo

Well considering Messi is likely to sign a new contract worth a million a week, 25m would only pay off half his wages.
In all seriousness Coutinho for a year on loan wouldn’t be the worst deal in the world, if he could recapture his RS form. But as I’ve alluded to earlier in the thread I’m not sure how he’s fit in, in Ancelotti’s favoured 4-4-2.