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I really don't know why our players and the players of other clubs haven't just told the premier league to eff off and it's a stupid idea for the premier league to start again. The idea that it's fair that Liverpool essentially get to play us twice at home in the league is just ridiculous, sadly we don't have any players with a backbone and neither do the other clubs with the exception of Watford. If clubs are stupid enough to give away their place in the premier league to appease the RS, then those clubs must be run by morons.
 

I really don't know why our players and the players of other clubs haven't just told the premier league to eff off and it's a stupid idea for the premier league to start again. The idea that it's fair that Liverpool essentially get to play us twice at home in the league is just ridiculous, sadly we don't have any players with a backbone and neither do the other clubs with the exception of Watford. If clubs are stupid enough to give away their place in the premier league to appease the RS, then those clubs must be run by morons.

How do you know exactly that ours or any other team's players haven't spoke up about it? The problem is the teams don't run the league, the league runs them and in turn the TV companies run the league. If the players straight up refuse to play then the league would be forced by Sky, BT etc to fold and in turn the teams go bust. That's the crux of it, TV and money are the power players over common decency
 

If players would have actually agreed to a unanimous pay reduction this might have been possible. But when you’re a company (which is what football clubs basically are) where 70% of your turnover goes on wages you don’t have much choice but to get the show back on the road ASAP.

Really the whole thing should have been called off until fans were allowed back. But when people say that “sport” shouldn’t be coming back, it’s not sport really is it? It’s not jumpers for goalposts in the park- it’s a billion pound business with pay masters to serve and wages to pay. Save for the government actually growing a pair and mandating some stuff in order to protect the game at all levels, I don’t know what choice the clubs have.

Was thinking this.

Players were very quiet and seem to avoid any pay cut.

I would be keen to get an update on the NHS donation.
 
Few people in here virtually wetting themselves with the excitement of it starting up.

Odd, that
Virtually and physically I dare say....
Suppose it depends on who you actually support ;)
Personally due to the fact this has no semblance to 'football 1878- May 2019' I'd rather sit and watch the grass grow in my back garden.
 
Follows:
- 4 positives (3 clubs) from 1008 in R3
- 2 positives (2 clubs) from 996 in R2
- 6 positives (3 clubs) from 748 in R1


So from approx ....

1 in 125 in round one to
1 in 500 round two to
1 in 252 round three to
0 in l130 round three

So although not a perfectly smooth downward trajectory a very clear improving sequence.

Round three a big improvement on round one with perhaps round two giving exceptionally good results but now even bettered by round four.

Is there even a slim possibility that the public will look at that and go "oh my, strict observance of lockdown, contact tracing and social distancing (coupled with proper quarantining of those infected) actually works!"?
 
Is there even a slim possibility that the public will look at that and go "oh my, strict observance of lockdown, contact tracing and social distancing (coupled with proper quarantining of those infected) actually works!"?


Yes it's good proof but it's possible with professional footballers working under such 'artificially' controlled conditions, replicating multiplied by a factor of hundreds of times, over an almost infinitely larger sample size with such regular testing and tracing of everyone is possibly asking the impractical and impossible.

Getting as near as is practicably possible though with such proof now in the public domain must be a legitimate aim.

Apparently the 'old' contact and trace facility had to be abandoned as the number it could cope with and test properly was absolutely minute which points to the systems available at the outbreak being nowhere near ready
 
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