Project restart discussion.

[Minimeister]

That’s actually very interesting, the fact that a number of Watford players are now following their captains example and saying “no.” Obviously the RS conspiracies will accuse these Doctors of faking the tests, but if more and more players refuse to play, it gets really messy for the PL.

Strange how everyone knows the players are the ones in control these days yet think the TV companies and the PL will have the power to make them risk their own, and their families health or even make them quarantine away from their families at such a dreadful time. I can't see it happening at all.

 

[Wat Tyler]

Strange how everyone knows the players are the ones in control these days yet think the TV companies and the PL will have the power to make them risk their own, and their families health or even make them quarantine away from their families at such a dreadful time. I can't see it happening at all.

It says a lot when the government are talking about July for gyms and leisure centres to open no earlier than July, but the PL go back training this week.

 

[USABlue]

The players being young and fit is honestly irrelevant when it comes to why players don't want to train/play. Many of them probably have at risk family (Deeney's kid, Tammy Abraham mentioned having parents at home. I'm sure others have at risk family.) And before people jump on and say " essential workers have to risk their families and go to work so these divas should be playing" the difference is football isn't truly essential.

 

[orly]

Massive fan of Deeney, Rose and Sterling telling the authorities to sniff it.

Victims of racially biased media coverage for years and now being told to come back to "raise the nation's morale"??? Is right lads.

No wonder former Sunderland kopite captain Henderson is on the front of all the news articles, the moody gremlin

 

[Papa Shango]

Look at Fabrice Muamba, we never know what problems players might have

Marc Vivian Foe, Chieck Tiote, Phil O' Donnell, Daniel Jarque, Miklos Feher all died on the pitch and they are just the more famous ones.

As you say you just never know.

Will they be testing all the coach drivers, camera crew, commentators, stadium staff etc etc too. You would hope so. All this for some money that's not even real anyway.

 

[PITA]

Yeah I can, but if a player is negative the day before a game (and from several other tests you'll have already tested negative for), even if you do catch it during the next 24 hrs, you're not in the phase where you will be transmitting the virus. The testing is enabling them to say it's safe for them to proceed.

You write that as if it doesn't matter. Is football really that important to you?

BTW, have you ever heard of a test giving a false result?

 

[WA Toffee]

Players get injured all the time mate.

Teams having players missing games isnt a new thing.

Pulled muscles aren't contagious though

 

[Tea_drinker]

Massive fan of Deeney, Rose and Sterling telling the authorities to sniff it.

Deeney is a thug who was found guilty of beating up defenceless students outside a nightclub. I have absolutely no time for him or his views.

 

[arminisgod]

It says a lot when the government are talking about July for gyms and leisure centres to open no earlier than July, but the PL go back training this week.

how do they compare? The premier leaguie players will be tested every week! People going to gyms won't

 

[nikom court]

Deeney is a thug who was found guilty of beating up defenceless students outside a nightclub. I have absolutely no time for him or his views.

maybe so,but he winds the rs up,
so whats a couple of students getting a few digs between friends!

 

[fabricsince1985]

You write that as if it doesn't matter. Is football really that important to you?

BTW, have you ever heard of a test giving a false result?

That comment is within the context of a point saying that an infected person doesn't start transmitting the virus within such a short time frame, I can't make that point without hypothetically expressing someone having caught the virus. It goes without saying anyone catching coronavirus is bad in my mind. Football isn't important to me either, I don't support it restarting to complete this season.

With the testing as it is now, I'd support a new league season starting in August. I can't hold that view and on the other hand say it shouldn't restart now, if that's what they want want to do. Again it isn't 'important' to me, that's just my view in the context of the risk based on the information available.

I'm also aware that testing can be wrong. It's been reported to be as high as 30%, which I thought would be the end to project restart. Frustratingly, the Premier League have sourced testing which is proven to be 98.8% accurate. I find it awful, that footballers, who are incredibly low risk, are getting a test which is significantly more accurate than any key worker. A key worker who may have a false result in error, feel better, return to work and pass it on unknowingly.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

It says a lot when the government are talking about July for gyms and leisure centres to open no earlier than July, but the PL go back training this week.

Yes I think it senseless to even set a date now, there are far too many variables which could easily make any 'provisional' date absolutely impossible, it's ludicrous and almost certainly will be pushed back a lot further anyway.

Tbh I couldn't care less about any restart as have seriously fallen out of love with football. I'm getting used to not being so down about us every weekend and might even start following Southport, if they even survive that is.

 

[bluejim95]

Some amazing replies in there from RS and Leeds fans. Even accusing teams of sending players out to lick hospital hand rails to avoid relegation.

As much as I love watching Everton, the sport is going places I cant morally follow. How anyone could still support clubs trying to furlough, I dont know. Appalling behaviour of fans as we've seen from the RS wishing Troy's boy gets the virus. Its the first time I am glad we are not competing as I wouldn't want to see that side of our fanbase.

I'm guessing I'm not alone in saying additional TV packages would be the first thing cut from my spending if money is tight.

My opinion might not be for everyone, but if clubs go bust, then so be it. They have had their chance to make a pot for a rainy day and instead blown it. Now they want to risk lives to keep it all going, bleeding the fans that support them whilst sat on their own personal fortunes. Sorry but no football team is worth one life.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

That comment is within the context of a point saying that an infected person doesn't start transmitting the virus within such a short time frame, I can't make that point without hypothetically expressing someone having caught the virus. It goes without saying anyone catching coronavirus is bad in my mind. Football isn't important to me either, I don't support it restarting to complete this season.

With the testing as it is now, I'd support a new league season starting in August. I can't hold that view and on the other hand say it shouldn't restart now, if that's what they want want to do. Again it isn't 'important' to me, that's just my view in the context of the risk based on the information available.

I'm also aware that testing can be wrong. It's been reported to be as high as 30%, which I thought would be the end to project restart. Frustratingly, the Premier League have sourced testing which is proven to be 98.8% accurate. I find it awful, that footballers, who are incredibly low risk, are getting a test which is significantly more accurate than any key worker. A key worker who may have a false result in error, feel better, return to work and pass it on unknowingly.

Agree entirely with these sentiments as far as safety goes it will be far better, in fact massively better than almost any other working environment. I posted yesterday on how the demographics (young,superfit atheletes etc) are so much in their favour.

There will be the management, staff and referees who in regular contact with the players will have to take similar precautionary measures. The biggest problem is setting strict protocols for match day staff and media to follow as there would be up to 300 at a non spectator match, but here as with every other industry or service they will be set.

The financial penalties for not restarting are undoubtedly the single driving force but it is likely to have every chance of suceeding but perhaps not on the date set but almost certainly later.

EUFA will pull the plug if they can't start by a certain date so curtailment still very much possible.

(These positive tests 6 from 780 or so represent less than 1% but crucially taken when players have Ben exposed to s far more normal' dangerous environment, possibly some or all asymptomatic too - they may well be a problem for publicity now but don't really reflect the conditions envisaged for the restart)

Personally as I've made clear In previous posts I couldn't care less if it never restarts.

 

[daza_1973]

Only 1% of tests positive - it's still a potential death sentence for 1% no matter how they dress it up. Ghoulish levels of self-interest and greed from footballs hierarchy.