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PaulPowersTash said:
Bang On!
We have approximately 5x the levels of infection across the UK compared to Germany and 4x the numbers of deaths with a population that is circa only 80% of Germany. Any attempt at using Germany as a benchmark or yardstick is at the very least highly disingenuous and nothing more than being totally fraudulent.
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Yes, I said on twitter a couple of weeks ago Germany had had a prolonged period of round 200 deaths per day. We are still averaging well over 500 a day on a rolling average. 200 a day for several weeks was the measure used to start training again. Their return has been put back again due to quarantine.

If the numbers remain substantially above 200 a day in terms of a rolling average, whoever signs the PL off to start again should be up on a coorporate manslaughter charge, along with this government.
 
Shevin Keedy said:
That is exactly why our country needs more of a morale boost then.


(I have applied Kopite logic here.)
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Yes. The problem is though when you're grieving you really don't need football, you need solutions to keep people safe. Football will do the opposite of that.

I'll be frank, aside from them, and the Tories, I don't think anyone wants a diversion from the glib reality of the farcical handling of this crisis. It's a sombre moment for the nation.
 

catcherintherye said:
The PL look really stupid for highlighting it. I mean even Jeremy Hunt said yesterday Germany had handled this crisis substantially better than we have.
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If you count massive contributory factors, by far the most obvious being population density, then Germany which has a relatively high density (though nothing anywhere near the UK), sticks out even more so.

Germany and South Korea have defied the trend and kept extremely low numbers despite mitigating factors against such achievements.

Comparing across countries is fraught with difficulty as it's nowhere near like with like, far too many variables not just in reporting, but known massive contributory factors such as population density which really affects the resultant expectancy hugely (of both deaths and cases generally).

The UK dwarfs the other major European countries for population density and has by far the most populous city in the international hub, London (numbers and density).

Numbers tell a story but you tend to get a hugely false one when massive mitigating factors are just plainly ignored or virtually unreported.

Tbf the scientists do say comparing across countries isn't great as not like with like, but don't have the time to list the largest mitigating factors.

This is why Germany stands out and is so impressive, not just against the UK but everyone (bar South Korea) as it has low numbers despite a relatively high population density (nowhere near the UK though)

The UK perhaps should be expected to have the largest numbers (and by some way) given the demography.
 

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