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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


toffeejack said:
Has king apologised yet for getting it wrong? I mean, it's pretty rich of a club known for murder to accuse a guy coughing as scum. Idiots the lot of them, why can they never take a defeat on the chin?
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Was he one of those journalists doing the coughing at the Chinese woman? Not insinuating anything, it's an honest question.
 
jondel said:
if you ever think that some of our fans are too critical of our team then take a look at the scarlet nosed chaps over the road when they have been beaten like this and think hey we're not so bad
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They're not critical of the team though, they pick out a single squad player to vilify and scapegoat, it's never any of the top players underperforming or the manager's one dimensional tactics. They are essentially just bullies.
 
mikeh72 said:
what I meant
They're not critical of the team though, they pick out a single squad player to vilify and scapegoat, it's never any of the top players underperforming or the manager's one dimensional tactics. They are essentially just bullies.
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that's more or less
 

I know a few of you on here dont really watch them that much. I do a fair bit to be honest and i said a while ago, talks of a dynasty etc are long long away chaps.

Jurgen has and always been abit of a '3 year manager'. The intensity and aggressiveness of his brand of football just cant last any longer than that. and atleast half of this group will hit a brick wall (there special east german powerade has probably kept them going longer than Dortmund did under Klopp to be fair).

First example in this Liverpool team is 'Bobby' Firmino. I would say he has maybe a year left as the focal point of this team before his legs go, or the injuries begin. His stats and output are beginning to drop, obviously he still pops up here and there because he is a good player, but he wont be keeping it up longer. And its pretty understandible since its only him & Hendo who have been at liverpool for Klopps whole tenure (i think).
Signing someone like Minamino is also a sign that they have predicted he wont be the same player soon. Minamino is same size, type and style as Firmino was when he came into Liverpool so they will be replacing him soon.

Next is big Virge, he is begining to look like Hummels before he had a year off 'injured' and then went to Munich were he regained his form with less heavy workload and less of the energy drink pumped into him. His turning circle has got larger, he is dropping deeper, and he is passing much more on to his partner (Gomez) than he was 6-12 months ago. Still a top class defender, but for how long.

I expect to see similar things happen to Mane next. Out of there front 3 Salah looks best conditioned to continue this through.

Also expect a big drop off from the likes of Wijnaldum, Hendo, Milner & maybe even Fabinho

The likes of Trent, 'Robbo', & Oxlade Chamberlain for now still have plenty in the tank, but with the amount of work the full backs go through, i would expect Robertson to maybe begin to pick up a fair few niggly injurys next season, abit like how Henderson has over the past 18 months.

Dont get me wrong, they are still a good team, but trust me! Unless they have a master recruitment plan and go and get Mbappe and all sorts, this is the begining of the end.
 
It's funny how they get oh so offended when we can have a rare laugh at their expense.

They've done nothing but rip us and lord it up over us at every opportunity all season, turning up on loads of our messageboards with their own style of 'banter', coming on this thread all the time screenshotting stuff getting all offended at what gets posted, yet on the odd occasion when we can dish a bit out they seem suprised, get oh so upset and throw the 'concentrate on your own team' cliche back.

Looking on other social media sites it seems many, not just rival fans, rejoiced at Liverpool's defeat last night. Perhaps if their fans didn't rub peoples noses in it any chance they get this just maybe wouldn't be the case.
 

Raino85 said:
I know a few of you on here dont really watch them that much. I do a fair bit to be honest and i said a while ago, talks of a dynasty etc are long long away chaps.

Jurgen has and always been abit of a '3 year manager'. The intensity and aggressiveness of his brand of football just cant last any longer than that. and atleast half of this group will hit a brick wall (there special east german powerade has probably kept them going longer than Dortmund did under Klopp to be fair).

First example in this Liverpool team is 'Bobby' Firmino. I would say he has maybe a year left as the focal point of this team before his legs go, or the injuries begin. His stats and output are beginning to drop, obviously he still pops up here and there because he is a good player, but he wont be keeping it up longer. And its pretty understandible since its only him & Hendo who have been at liverpool for Klopps whole tenure (i think).
Signing someone like Minamino is also a sign that they have predicted he wont be the same player soon. Minamino is same size, type and style as Firmino was when he came into Liverpool so they will be replacing him soon.

Next is big Virge, he is begining to look like Hummels before he had a year off 'injured' and then went to Munich were he regained his form with less heavy workload and less of the energy drink pumped into him. His turning circle has got larger, he is dropping deeper, and he is passing much more on to his partner (Gomez) than he was 6-12 months ago. Still a top class defender, but for how long.

I expect to see similar things happen to Mane next. Out of there front 3 Salah looks best conditioned to continue this through.

Also expect a big drop off from the likes of Wijnaldum, Hendo, Milner & maybe even Fabinho

The likes of Trent, 'Robbo', & Oxlade Chamberlain for now still have plenty in the tank, but with the amount of work the full backs go through, i would expect Robertson to maybe begin to pick up a fair few niggly injurys next season, abit like how Henderson has over the past 18 months.

Dont get me wrong, they are still a good team, but trust me! Unless they have a master recruitment plan and go and get Mbappe and all sorts, this is the begining of the end.
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If you look through that Dortmund team he had, very few had good careers afterwards. Nuri Sahin went from one of the best in Europe to completely broken in his late 20s. See Mario Goetze also, and Subotic. Hummels survived strolling around at the back for Bayern but he still seen his international career over by age 30. Kagawa’s career finished pretty much the second he moved to Man U, Schmelzer dropped away, pisczek and his polish counterpart in front of him on the wing went from the best right side in Europe to compete non entities.

Lewandowski is the obvious exception. Gundogan you could argue as well although again he’s nowhere near the snarling dog he was at Dortmund.

These Liverpool players have sold their soul to Klopp’s juice in order to elevate them to a level beyond what most of them were capable of - I mean come on, Salah couldn’t even get in the Chelsea team, Fabinho was reserve right back for Brazil, Van Dijk just propped up the treatment table at Southampton, Robertson was an average leftback at Hull. They all suddenly and very quickly became absolutely world class. Will be interesting to see what Robertson, TAA, Gomez’s career look like after Klopp leaves. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if they’re all absolutely broken before they’re 30.
 
Saint Domingo said:
If you look through that Dortmund team he had, very few had good careers afterwards. Nuri Sahin went from one of the best in Europe to completely broken in his late 20s. See Mario Goetze also, and Subotic. Hummels survived strolling around at the back for Bayern but he still seen his international career over by age 30. Kagawa’s career finished pretty much the second he moved to Man U, Schmelzer dropped away, pisczek and his polish counterpart in front of him on the wing went from the best right side in Europe to compete non entities.

Lewandowski is the obvious exception. Gundogan you could argue as well although again he’s nowhere near the snarling dog he was at Dortmund.

These Liverpool players have sold their soul to Klopp’s juice in order to elevate them to a level beyond what most of them were capable of - I mean come on, Salah couldn’t even get in the Chelsea team, Fabinho was reserve right back for Brazil, Van Dijk just propped up the treatment table at Southampton, Robertson was an average leftback at Hull. They all suddenly and very quickly became absolutely world class. Will be interesting to see what Robertson, TAA, Gomez’s career look like after Klopp leaves. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if they’re all absolutely broken before they’re 30.
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My suggestion would be he usually builds relatively young teams, runs them into the ground, and leaves just as he notices they’re burnt out
 
I mean with the way the media are hyping up what is essentially a chest infection in order to incite mass panic it really wouldn’t surprise me if their representatives did start coughing at a Chinese lady.
 
I'm surprised Special Dispensation FC have not requested last night's result declared nul and void as there should not have been any away supporters in the ground.
Cancel and award the game to offended FC
 

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