Man City Banned From Europe

[riddick]

Does this mean that 8th is now EL as well?

 

[Mildredblues]

Yessss
This is within reach. Now don't screw it up Everton!!

 

[JLW]

During those last few Silva games.....who would have thought

The turn around since Ancelotti and Ferguson took over is huge, luckily the leagues been dire this season and any team with a little bit of form can shoot right up the table like we have.

I still believe 3rd place is up for grabs not for us like but I think Leicester will get pulled down to fight for the (3) CL spots available. Within a matter of a couple of weeks this season has gone from being dead to well and truly alive

 

[carolinablue232]

People keep saying its to keep the big boys at the top, which big boys is it keeping at the top?

Barca, PSG, Milan, City, both Madrids, Bayern, Chelsea, Juve are all affected by FFP.

It was brought in to "attempt" a level playing field, of sorts.

In what way? I still haven’t figured it out. Seems like all it did was reward the clubs who already had huge commercial revenue and prevent clubs from having massive investments that could help them compete on a similar financial playing field.

Again if they really wanted it to be “fair” they’d have just capped net spending on players for all clubs or something similar.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

It does illustrate the dangers that face us in introducing finance into our club via the Moshiri - Usmanov connection.
At present we are able to operate under the dubious assumption that Usmanov is technically uninvolved with Everton, however even a cursory glance at recent sponsorship deals and the very close business connection between the two men is already raising concerns within the governing boards.
With each season the various authorities are closing loopholes and showing determination to enforce the financial restrictions.
With the PL also attempting to put in place point deductions for financial infractions ,as already happens in the other English leagues , it is clear we shall have to tread very carefully indeed with our future dealings.

 

[Goat]

In what way? I still haven’t figured it out. Seems like all it did was reward the clubs who already had huge commercial revenue and prevent clubs from having massive investments that could help them compete on a similar financial playing field.

Again if they really wanted it to be “fair” they’d have just capped net spending on players for all clubs or something similar.

But why should clubs with good commercial deals be treated the same as clubs with poor?

I mean just imagine how far ahead City would be without it.

 

[TheBigIguana]

But why should clubs with good commercial deals be treated the same as clubs with poor?

I mean just imagine how far ahead City would be without it.

I think it was designed specifically to rein in City and PSG. By making it based on how much the club brought in the traditional rich clubs like United and the RS could ensure they always had more to spend as their revenues were always going to be higher.

I always thought FFP was specifically meant to preserve the hierarchy in place when it was implemented. They could live with PSG and City blowing them away but any others would be a threat.

City have won 4 titles in a decade and they can't make enough real money to not have to spend over these limits. Imagine how much success it would take us to reach that level. Or really any other PL club. Obviously United, Arsenal, etc. can always screw it up by being horribly mismanaged but the deck is stacked for them to never drop off the top rungs.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

In what way? I still haven’t figured it out. Seems like all it did was reward the clubs who already had huge commercial revenue and prevent clubs from having massive investments that could help them compete on a similar financial playing field.

Again if they really wanted it to be “fair” they’d have just capped net spending on players for all clubs or something similar.

Clearly the only just and equitable way to enable some sort of level playing field is to impose a wage cap, yet the authorities continually shy away from such an obvious measure.
Wages are far and away the biggest financial strain on the sport.
For young men to be routinely paid more per month than an average working person will earn in their lifetime ,that is an obscenity, and that this is for kicking a bag of wind round a park once a week is patently absurd as well as distasteful.
Rugby Union is currently showing the way in enforcing salary caps and what I find interesting in this case is how much opprobrium is directed at not just the club but at the players also and from not only fans but fellow players as well.
Clearly if you introduce morally acceptable restrictions it can introduce a level of morality amongst supporters and players which is otherwise continually eroded.
A salary cap is the best way to clear out the Augean stable that association football has come to resemble.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Clearly the only just and equitable way to enable some sort of level playing field is to impose a wage cap, yet the authorities continually shy away from such an obvious measure.
Wages are far and away the biggest financial strain on the sport.
For young men to be routinely paid more per month than an average working person will earn in their lifetime ,that is an obscenity, and that this is for kicking a bag of wind round a park once a week is patently absurd as well as distasteful.
Rugby Union is currently showing the way in enforcing salary caps and what I find interesting in this case is how much opprobrium is directed at not just the club but at the players also and from not only fans but fellow players as well.
Clearly if you introduce morally acceptable restrictions it can introduce a level of morality amongst supporters and players which is otherwise continually eroded.
A salary cap is the best way to clear out the Augean stable that association football has come to resemble.

Problem is all it takes is one league somewhere to not have a salary cap for it to fall apart. It would have to be a FIFA mandate and even then I'm not sure that someone couldn't just step outside of that.

 

[Igrok]

Next should be the red hoard...

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Problem is all it takes is one league somewhere to not have a salary cap for it to fall apart. It would have to be a FIFA mandate and even then I'm not sure that someone couldn't just step outside of that.

Not if the laws are strictly enforced as the Saracens have recently discovered in Rugby Union.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

I’m just drunk, p***ed off and lashing out :Honestly though it’ll be tough plus something tells me united will be helped into 5th place

That's because we'll be in 4th...

 

[TheBigIguana]

Not if the laws are strictly enforced as the Saracens have recently discovered in Rugby Union.

That's one league though. And rugby doesn't have nearly unlimited money and interest.

There's a scenario where FIFA puts a limit and a bunch of rich dudes who aren't FIFA create a new league with new franchised teams that offer all the great players tons of money and renders the salary cap that FIFA clubs follow pointless.

 

[JLW]

1. Negative GD = -1 point to the rest of our competitors

2. Tougher run in than those around

3. We play Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, Sheff Utd & Wolves all away from home giving them home advantage in the big 6 pointer matches

Not saying we wont but I just dont think we'll have enough to overturn the deficit whilst the likes of Sheff Utd lose to crap like Brighton at home which they wont they are flying at present and for me are the Dark horses.

Had Brands rolled the dice in January maybe but we never and our midfield and wide players (one injury from Sidibe out wide) are just not good enough.

Tougher run in! We play those in and around us therefore means our fate is in our own hands.
Now we have everything to play for. I would say everything is in our favour.

The biggest factor in all this is we have serial winner Ancelotti at the helm.

 

[JLW]

How some of our fans turn a positive into a negative is truly remarkable.