2019/20 Carlo Ancelotti

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

The media worked quicker than even I anticipated to try and undermine Ancelotti.

It's working by the looks of it considering some of our own fans are now questioning Ancelotti.

 

[Carlito]

Is this what you think its like at Finch Farm...

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'Chaos is a ladder, Gylfi.'

 

[canuckblue]

Watched the game Sunday -- one of the rare games we can get over here these days because the TV rights have switched to DAZN -- and it was clear to me bypassing the midfield would have worked just as well and playing from the back. Pickford's distribution, has has been noted, was more toward the sideline, trapping the receiving player. And neither Mina nor Holgate are capable of launching pinpoint long passes -- 90% of the time those efforts find an opposition player.
We did get those great chances in the first half, so something was working, but you can't play from the back when the midfielders are unwilling or incapable of quickly playing the ball forward. Schneiderlin is not a playmaker (nor is he a defensive midfielder as that would require some tackling ability) and Sigurdsson is more of a set-piece specialist than anything (he doesn't play enough quality through balls for my liking to be considered a playmaker; one great pass every four games just doesn't cut it). Delph is just off an injury and Gomes is out, meaning Davies is probably the best CM we have. And that sums up the problem.
What Carlo MIGHT have done is go three at the back and move Holgate into midfield, but that really wouldn't have made that much of a difference, IMO. Bottom line, and especially in light of this apparent dressing room spat, is that this team needs an enema and Carlo is going to wield the hose.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

yeh, all 15 players had a bad day at the same time. The manager got them so up for it and they were so aware of their new formation and style but they were all just a bit sad that they failed to implement it.

Damn that Ancelotti and his tactics, fancy telling those 11 that started to play with no passion or pride, and too just walk around.

 

[bluebud]

Marcel Brands faces angry Everton fans looking to confront players at training ground

Marcel Brands, Everton’s director of football, held face-to-face talks with a group of angry supporters who descended on the club’s training ground looking to confront players in the aftermath of the FA Cup defeat by Liverpool.Seven fans turned up at Finch Farm on Tuesday morning as they sought to m

www.thetimes.co.uk

They've said nothing wrong there tbh.

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[Connor]

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Aye

Marcel Brands, Everton’s director of football, held face-to-face talks with a group of angry supporters who descended on the club’s training ground looking to confront players in the aftermath of the FA Cup defeat to Liverpool.

Seven fans turned up at Finch Farm on Monday morning as they sought to make their displeasure clear to Carlo Ancelotti’s squad following Sunday’s abject 1-0 reverse to a weakened Liverpool team.

They asked security to bring the players out and, when that request was refused, it was suggested that more fans could be mobilised to turn up at the training complex and stage a blockade, highlighting the toxic nature of the fall-out from the humiliating loss.

It was then that Brands, who was appointed director of football in the summer of 2018, appeared at the gates to the complex and spoke to supporters as he listened to a lengthy list of complaints.

Chief among the supporters’ grievances was the belief that Everton has become a destination for players to earn a big pay cheque without taking on the responsibility for improving the club’s fortunes.

Many of the expensive signings that have not worked out pre-date arrival of Brands and hark back to when Steve Walsh was Everton’s director of football.

Brands took on board the points, which were made in a meeting that lasted around 20-minutes, and said he would relay them to players and staff.

It comes with midfielder Fabian Delph having also been involved in a social media spat on Monday with a supporter who questioned his commitment in the defeat at Anfield.

In a lengthy exchange Delph, signed from Manchester City for £8.5 million in the summer in an attempt to add leadership into Everton’s team, insisted he had given “100 per cent” and rejected the criticism, claiming the players were more upset than the fans.

Indeed, it is understood that several of Everton’s players believe their commitment should not be called into question, despite accepting their collective performance was poor in the second-half at Anfield when a Liverpool side containing a number of teenagers extended their unbeaten home record against their rivals to 21-years.

Liverpool’s own outstanding form as Premier League leaders, and current European and World champions, makes life more difficult for Everton and it is against this backdrop that Ancelotti must now seek to orchestrate a transformation in fortune.

Ancelotti, who has lost his last two matches after winning his first games in charge, has held a meeting about the make-up of his squad with club officials having seen the true extent of the overhaul he must now instigate.

Everton are set to announce record losses — their general meeting is held next Tuesday — and are mindful of the need to comply with Premier League Profit and Sustainability rules. The guidelines allow losses of £105 million over a three-year period.

 

[Lanolin]

It's working by the looks of it considering some of our own fans are now questioning Ancelotti.

I'm not questioning Ancelotti but I will tell you with absolutely no doubt in my mind that had we put in this exact performance under Silva people would not be saying that his tactics were spot on. I'm able to accept that the players didn't play well and that they might have a point about the tactical set up. I'm not too sure why i'm in such a minority with that one.

 

[Khalekan]

It's the fact that it was a Liverpool team in name only that made it, in my opinion, arguably the worst defeat in the club's history (that I know of).

Most of those lads who Klopp fielded will never play a league game for them. The Spaniard who bossed the midfield was garbage, the centre-back who's only ever played in Budesliga II was all over the place and that left-back was nearly poor enough to play for Everton. Throw in the sight of Lallana and Origi looking like de Bruyne and Drogba, and it's easy to see why this is a watershed moment for many.

I can only speak for myself when I say this, but I wouldn't be surprised if plenty of others feel the same way.

+1

 

[bol-uk]

It's working by the looks of it considering some of our own fans are now questioning Ancelotti.

No they arent,they are saying it was a one off bad tactical game.

 

[technojoe]

I hope the rumours of Carlo putting the fecked five on sale are true!

 

[bol-uk]

Damn that Ancelotti and his tactics, fancy telling those 11 that started to play with no passion or pride, and too just walk around.

Schneids was the only one walking around, the rest tried but were trying to play from the back as instructed and it was a woeful decision. It happens, all managers get it wrong some times, no biggie really. What is wrong is not being able to see that and just thinking that 15 players forgot how to play against a load of kids.

Madness

 

[Archie Knox]

I am just appalled at the lack of options there are to make up a half-decent starting xi. Every time I try to put together a potential line up I realise we have an absolutely diabolical defence and no midfield at all.

I'd go for this against Brighton, even though I think the team will struggle.

Loessl
Coleman Holgate Gibson Baines
Baningame Davies Delph
Kean Gordon Richarlison
​

Players need to be shown they are replaceable and their performances will not be tolerated. I am specifically pointing out Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Delph, Mina, Keane, Walcott, even Digne and Pickford for their shambolic efforts this season, and Sidibe who is very hot and cold. We have to play some of them as we literally have nobody else, but if now isn't time to blood some of the best-performing under 23s, when is?

I'd get Feeney, Broadhead and Simms in the squad too.

 

[davek]

Marcel Brands, Everton’s director of football, held face-to-face talks with a group of angry supporters who descended on the club’s training ground looking to confront players in the aftermath of the FA Cup defeat to Liverpool.

Seven fans turned up at Finch Farm on Monday morning as they sought to make their displeasure clear to Carlo Ancelotti’s squad following Sunday’s abject 1-0 reverse to a weakened Liverpool team.

They asked security to bring the players out and, when that request was refused, it was suggested that more fans could be mobilised to turn up at the training complex and stage a blockade, highlighting the toxic nature of the fall-out from the humiliating loss.

It was then that Brands, who was appointed director of football in the summer of 2018, appeared at the gates to the complex and spoke to supporters as he listened to a lengthy list of complaints.

Chief among the supporters’ grievances was the belief that Everton has become a destination for players to earn a big pay cheque without taking on the responsibility for improving the club’s fortunes.

Many of the expensive signings that have not worked out pre-date arrival of Brands and hark back to when Steve Walsh was Everton’s director of football.

Brands took on board the points, which were made in a meeting that lasted around 20-minutes, and said he would relay them to players and staff.

It comes with midfielder Fabian Delph having also been involved in a social media spat on Monday with a supporter who questioned his commitment in the defeat at Anfield.

In a lengthy exchange Delph, signed from Manchester City for £8.5 million in the summer in an attempt to add leadership into Everton’s team, insisted he had given “100 per cent” and rejected the criticism, claiming the players were more upset than the fans.

Indeed, it is understood that several of Everton’s players believe their commitment should not be called into question, despite accepting their collective performance was poor in the second-half at Anfield when a Liverpool side containing a number of teenagers extended their unbeaten home record against their rivals to 21-years.

Liverpool’s own outstanding form as Premier League leaders, and current European and World champions, makes life more difficult for Everton and it is against this backdrop that Ancelotti must now seek to orchestrate a transformation in fortune.

Ancelotti, who has lost his last two matches after winning his first games in charge, has held a meeting about the make-up of his squad with club officials having seen the true extent of the overhaul he must now instigate.

Everton are set to announce record losses — their general meeting is held next Tuesday — and are mindful of the need to comply with Premier League Profit and Sustainability rules. The guidelines allow losses of £105 million over a three-year period.

What a surprise about Delph's response...the man who thought he could take over a team talk from Pep Guardiola.

The utter 'kin piss takers and dross this club have signed for half a billion.

 

[sageyefc]

Surely no coming back for some of these players after this mess, finally might see a proper clear out

 

[ForeverBlue92]

I am just appalled at the lack of options there are to make up a half-decent starting xi. Every time I try to put together a potential line up I realise we have an absolutely diabolical defence and no midfield at all.

I'd go for this against Brighton, even though I think the team will struggle.

Loessl
Coleman Holgate Gibson Baines
Baningame Davies Delph
Kean Gordon Richarlison
​

Players need to be shown they are replaceable and their performances will not be tolerated. I am specifically pointing out Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Delph, Mina, Keane, Walcott, even Digne and Pickford for their shambolic efforts this season, and Sidibe who is very hot and cold. We have to play some of them as we literally have nobody else, but if now isn't time to blood some of the best-performing under 23s, when is?

I'd get Feeney, Broadhead and Simms in the squad too.

Come on Archie mate we would get dry bummed with that line up.

We'll beat Brighton and all will be well with the world again.