Computer Builds

[Nymzee]

Ah ok lol

Best option start out clean unplug everything.

Then simply plug the PSU into the motherboard and that's it. As long as the processor is in too it should power up.

so simply the system board with Processor and psu connected and nothing else. As Random said before listen for beeps. It would be worth doing what he suggested also by plugging monitor into the adapter connector build onto the system board. So you can see if it starts booting up.

Do the basics first then if it does get power one at a time connect everything else. Start with the memory next. Do the graphics card last.

I’m guessing at the early point I’ll want case power, front panel connector etc. in as well for that first test

 

[SteveSC]

I’m guessing at the early point I’ll want case power, front panel connector etc. in as well for that first test

Yeah sorry yeah the basic connections for leds, power button and main board is what I meant.

 

[random]

make sure your connections are correct for front panel header as per the motherboard manual (page 5)

 

[Undisputed_blue]

Like prior to same cable management this is what I had to try sort out. The gap centre bottom is obviously back of PSU so once I had anything plugged together you just can’t get your hand into try anything. Cable management was by far the hardest part of the build.

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Shocking cable management. Should have got yourself a modular power supply unit.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

Front pic for comparison when I thought I was finished. Done a pretty neat job if it had worked.


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Can't tell from photos but please tell me you didn't screw the mobo directly in to the case (this mistake is more common than should be). You used the standoffs, right? All the essential power cables appear to be connected, though.

I doubt you did as your I/O backplate likely wouldn't line up, otherwise.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

My GPU finally showed up today, connected it, did my best with the cable management, closed to the case, plugged into a power source anddd didn’t work.

When I flick the power switch on the back of the case a little light comes on the GPU so I know there’s power at least to there. However when I press the case on/off button everything flashes on, then red (fans, MOBO etc.) for a second without noise.

Anyone have any ideas? I’m scared to try it again in case I fry something.

Tried to video it but can’t attach a video here so screenshot the video.

Before I switch it on showing GPU light:


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Just as I press the on button:

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One of the debug led's is on...can't tell which from the photo. See page 38 of your manual (I'm looking at the newest online one, so may be diff page on printed one). If it's CPU, for shiz and giggles, clear the CMOS and try again. If it's RAM, yank B2 out and try again with one stick. If same, swap sticks, still leaving just one in. If nothing again, put the other one back in B2 that you swapped and try again.

You're basically failing "post", so it's likely a hardware issue at some stage, provided everything's seated properly and powered. It's rarely the video card, so I'd start with connections and CPU/RAM issues.

 

[Dylan]

And just for reference...."POST" is Power On Self Test.

To echo what is said here, unplug everything. RAM, video card, power, SATA.

I would even be inclined to check to make sure you have the triangles lined up on the CPU and mobo. Reseat everything and give it a whirl

 

[Dylan]

Oh...its a B450 mobo........did it come with firmware enabling Ryzen 3000?

Or do you need to flash a new bios via USB on the MSI 'Flashback' feature?

IIRC Ryzen 3000 won't post on a mobo with incompatible firmware.

 

[Nymzee]

Shocking cable management. Should have got yourself a modular power supply unit.

It is modular! If anything made it worse as things can pop out haha.

 

[Nymzee]

Can't tell from photos but please tell me you didn't screw the mobo directly in to the case (this mistake is more common than should be). You used the standoffs, right? All the essential power cables appear to be connected, though.

I doubt you did as your I/O backplate likely wouldn't line up, otherwise.

Yeh the case already had the stand-offs in which was handy. Like you say I/O shield aligns so I wasn’t worried about that.

 

[Nymzee]

Oh...its a B450 mobo........did it come with firmware enabling Ryzen 3000?

Or do you need to flash a new bios via USB on the MSI 'Flashback' feature?

IIRC Ryzen 3000 won't post on a mobo with incompatible firmware.

The MAX version of my MOBO is Ryzen 3000 compatible. Or so it says.

 

[Nymzee]

And just for reference...."POST" is Power On Self Test.

To echo what is said here, unplug everything. RAM, video card, power, SATA.

I would even be inclined to check to make sure you have the triangles lined up on the CPU and mobo. Reseat everything and give it a whirl

Problem is if I do that I need to remove the CPU fan and probably would need more paste then wouldn’t I?

 

[Dylan]

Problem is if I do that I need to remove the CPU fan and probably would need more paste then wouldn’t I?

Correct. So you will need some isopropyl alcohol and some q-tips to clean the stuff off, then get yourself some decent TIM like Arctic Silver 5, rather than the overly generous amount of goop they include on the stock heat sink.

 

[Nymzee]

If I strip everything back to just having the PSU and MOBO connected (and front panel etc.) and it turns on, am I okay to hold the power button in to keep turning it off when I’m adding more connections?

 

[Dylan]

And while it is quick to blame mobo/cpu/ram as the culprit......it may be the PSU. Has the old computer that is sold actually left your custody yet? I would give it ago booting with another PSU.