Moyes as interim manager

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Is Gana Gueye said:
I would welcome moyes back until the end of the season with open arms. However it just wont work.
The secret to Moysies success was that he ran the club from top to bottom. Everyone reported to Moyes.
This meant that everyone who was bought was done so to share the same work ethos as Moyes. To share the same vision of taking Everton from bottom 4 fighters to top four contenders. Moyes took the plaudits but everyone knew were to aim the blame when it wasnt working.

This director of football model has not worked since day one. Talks of Koeman and Walsh having turns in picking players to buy, it seems that the same applies with Brands and Silva. We lost Gana and Zouma then chased Zaha when im 99.9% sure that Silva would of wanted proven replacements for the Centre Half and Midfield positions.

Does anybody think that Moyes would even want to work under that never mind succeed?

Silva should be sacked but im afraid Marcel also has to shoulder the blame. Sack the Director of football role altogether.
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It's a good post but is the problem with the model or the implementation?

Lots of successful clubs operate this way and they are able to change manager without finding half their payers no longer fit the playing style.

Agree it may be difficult to make it work with Moyes though.
 

Steve Wigan said:
Based on your comments, the real answer would be to get Big Sam back till the end of the season. Myself, I think Mosh should be talking to Poch with a pile of money on the table. THATS ambition.
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Why Sam over Moyes mate?

The issue with Sam would be he'd want longer than 18 months now too. I also think it's pretty toxic from game 1 with him.
 
Is Gana Gueye said:
People need to take into account that Sociedad were struggling, Sunderland were struggling and West Ham were struggling.
Why people use 'relegation fights' as a stick to beat him with baffles me. He had the balls for the fight whilst the foreign managerial stars wouldnt risk their reputation to prove they had the very same balls.
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Ha ha - Sunderland were more than struggling. That is one thing about Moyes - he has confidence and it filters down to the players.

A straight talking manager with a work ethic and values is just what we need at the moment.

Cahill scoring last minute winners is more exciting than any of the dross seen at Goodison for a number of years
 

brieverton said:
Things are aligning for Moyes to return, and that would have seemed absurd even a few weeks ago.

He may deliver stability and/or improvement, but on a broader level his limitations are clear to see.

What will bring him back here is a combination of desperation and fatigue.

The absolute state of us now. I can't believe things have come to this.

We plunge from the ridiculous to the ridiculous. It was never funny, but now is frightening.
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I've always had a fleeting interest in historical events and particularly big event (like wars/revolutions).

The Moyes option is by far the most likely now. We have 2 awful away games to come, with a group of players that know the manager is done. The big worry is I don't think they've thrown the towel in yet, but they could. If they do it will be cricket scores in the next two games.

The forces that want Moyes will only become emboldened by that experience. Much like with Allardyce.

Realistically Brands has 9 days maximum to have an alternative ready to take over that will be willing to do so and can appease people in a crisis. Worst case scenario he may only have 6 days, as they could well panic post Leicester. Thats what stands in the way of Moyes coming back.

I get the feeling no background work into other managers has been done this season. It's majorly remiss from Brands if thats the case.

There will be a point, where Moshiri's reservations about Moyes relent and he trusts Kenwright. We are very close to that point.
 
JobForTheMoyes said:
Benitez is a power hungry trouble-maker. The idea he would be content is laughable given his past antics at Valencia, Liverpool, Newcastle and even Inter.

If he was doingwell for a spell he would use it as leverage to force Brands out. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing....
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I dont think he is a trouble maker, his conditions at Newcastle were not good, we could all see that.
He helped put Valencia back on the map who have never really recovered apart from a decent finish last year under marcelinho (i think).
Liverpool he won more in a few years than everton have in 25.
Inter - not in the best of form in recent years, this season they have improved with funnily enough Lukaku leading the line - still not replaced him here.
 
Is Gana Gueye said:
I dont think he is a trouble maker, his conditions at Newcastle were not good, we could all see that.
He helped put Valencia back on the map who have never really recovered apart from a decent finish last year under marcelinho (i think).
Liverpool he won more in a few years than everton have in 25.
Inter - not in the best of form in recent years, this season they have improved with funnily enough Lukaku leading the line - still not replaced him here.
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Yeah, but Inter were European champions at the time! I guess you could say they were an old team, but Moyes never gets that credit at Man Utd...
 
alvinh said:
It's a good post but is the problem with the model or the implementation?

Lots of successful clubs operate this way and they are able to change manager without finding half their payers no longer fit the playing style.

Agree it may be difficult to make it work with Moyes though.
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Probably abit of both to be honest. The model is good when brands is tasked with the managers requests to identify certain targets - but isnt that the scouting networks job?
Brands is great with negotiating with other clubs for fees, he did great getting Gomes on a permanent deal.
Brands should be reporting to the board regarding the managerial position, but is a little slow in sacking Silva. He should be tasked with finding the immediate replacement.

Either the model is flawed or Marcel isnt good at his job. Id like to believe its the former as i like marcel but his inability to replace gana and zouma to chase Zaha has really left a sour taste.
 

JobForTheMoyes said:
Ha ha - Sunderland were more than struggling. That is one thing about Moyes - he has confidence and it filters down to the players.

A straight talking manager with a work ethic and values is just what we need at the moment.

Cahill scoring last minute winners is more exciting than any of the dross seen at Goodison for a number of years
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Whats funny? It sounds like we both agree but your not agreeing? Not sure how to deal with this conversation tbh. Do you agree or not agree to Moyes being the best shout for 6 months?
 
Kev The Rat said:
most people realise the facts. we will go down under Silva, and there are no other options.
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Being relegated certainly isn’t a “fact”.

What is a “fact” is that moyes ran down his contract and lowballed us on two of our players and bemoaned the idea that we wouldn’t let them go to united on the cheap for the sake of their career.
Moyes led United to their worst ever start in his year at United and was manager when Sunderland were relegated.
He won nothing here, tried to steal our players, got fired and got Sunderland relegated.
Those are the facts
 
Is Gana Gueye said:
Whats funny? It sounds like we both agree but your not agreeing? Not sure how to deal with this conversation tbh. Do you agree or not agree to Moyes being the best shout for 6 months?
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I just think nobody would have succeeded at Sunderland that season. Big Sam was making noises about quitting due to what was going on behind the scenes before he got the England job
 

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