New Everton Stadium Discussion

[The binman chronicles]

Well I hope not quite that bad! The design is perfectly ok Dave (I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder so it might not be quite to your taste) but if it was a totally modern design it just wouldn't fit in with the surroundings there. Fine if you are building on field where you are landscaping the lot to match, but with the dock wall, cobbles and the pump house it would stick out like a sore thumb.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Loving this idea...

Leaked images show bold vision to turn Goodison Park stand into hotel

Hotel firm Signature Living planning bid for Bullens Road Stand when club moves home

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

I put something in the survey about keeping part of the Bullens/Gwladys stands even if it was just 5-10 seats wide just to show what was there as fitting memorial to the world's first purpose built stadium. That is beyond my wildest dreams, someone just has to do the same with the GS now.

 

[davek]

Well I hope not quite that bad! The design is perfectly ok Dave (I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder so it might not be quite to your taste) but if it was a totally modern design it just wouldn't fit in with the surroundings there. Fine if you are building on field where you are landscaping the lot to match, but with the dock wall, cobbles and the pump house it would stick out like a sore thumb.

...alternatively: skew the design to make it fit in with the environment and the stadium risks getting lost in it.

The city's fathers weren't arsed about mixing designs on the waterfront a century and a half ago - look at the three graces.

The Echo Arena hardly fits the bill in that respect either.

 

[Pab Laa]

Was about to post this too.

It's a shame that the Goodison Legacy, literally leaves nothing of Goodison behind.

Keeping part of the bullens would be a great part to keep.

Exactly, keeping the centre circle was a small but nice touch but this is something else!

 

[Pab Laa]

I put something in the survey about keeping part of the Bullens/Gwladys stands even if it was just 5-10 seats wide just to show what was there as fitting memorial to the world's first purpose built stadium. That is beyond my wildest dreams, someone just has to do the same with the GS now.

Yeah, I asked that the GS goalposts were caged inside a glass box, for generations of supporters to take there grand kids too, even asked that said box could be reinforced so that kids could kick a ball at the goal still! And yes, a few seats would be a great idea too but those images of BS section are amazing!

 

[Tramps_mate]

Any point building this now?

With us having such a poor transfer window and all....

 

[Toffeelover]

You think brickwork is going to placate any local, national or international objection to a stadium there?

It's not what the thing looks like, it's what it's function is that will be the decider.

What is it you want Dave?

 

[davek]

What is it you want Dave?

That'll do.

Lose the brickwork. It's dull and foreboding.

 

[Jacko93]

That'll do.

Lose the brickwork. It's dull and foreboding.

You want a white stadium?

 

[Toffeelover]

That'll do.

Lose the brickwork. It's dull and foreboding.

Keep fingers crossed but UNESCO might not like your desire.

 

[davek]

You want a white stadium?

I want one without the dark Satanic mill look of the brickwork. It's dull and backward looking.

 

[Jacko93]

I want one without the dark Satanic mill look of the brickwork. It's dull and backward looking.

You mean you want one that isn't at all anchored, aesthetically, to the location it is in?

 

[davek]

You mean you want one that isn't at all anchored, aesthetically, to the location it is in?

You'll have to explain that to me. Are you saying that only a construct using brick will be possible on that dock?

 

[Jacko93]

You'll have to explain that to me. Are you saying that only a construct using brick will be possible on that dock?

No mate, aesthetically anchored, as in the building mirrors building around the area. An common requirement within planning, even at residential level (not that I think that's why its done)

FWIW, I think that the reason they have used the materials that they have is purely theatre, creating an atmosphere. Much of what Dan Meis has said has been about the atmosphere, keeping it close and foreboding. That's difficult to do with clean, modern looking slabs of colour, or monochrome designs.

 

[davek]

No mate, aesthetically anchored, as in the building mirrors building around the area. An common requirement within planning, even at residential level (not that I think that's why its done)

FWIW, I think that the reason they have used the materials that they have is purely theatre, creating an atmosphere. Much of what Dan Meis has said has been about the atmosphere, keeping it close and foreboding. That's difficult to do with clean, modern looking slabs of colour, or monochrome designs.

I honeslty dont think foreboding is what we want to project. We should be futuristic, not tipping hats toward Victorian Britain.

The idea of the Leitch criss crosswork on the brick just underlined how awful the sidewalls of the stadium looked. No problem with the roof...which I think is Meis' creation.

If that's the case, let Meis design the whole thing.