Summer Transfer Window 2019

[Saint Domingo]

Barry is on another level compared to this clown.

Had one good season with us, two awful ones and then got relegated to the championship with West Brom after an incident whilst away with the team.

Let’s hope Barry’s Everton career is nowhere near what Delph’s turns out to be.

 

[KaiserEFC]

Had one good season with us, two awful ones and then got relegated to the championship with West Brom after an incident whilst away with the team.

Let’s hope Barry’s Everton career is nowhere near what Delph’s turns out to be.

THANK YOU

I’m glad I’ve finally found someone else who doesn’t worship Barry as some kind of God for us.

 

[buskwhi2]

Mods, please stop me from replying to Gwladysblue, he can't be real, no one is that bad.

I’ve got him on ignore so it’s fun for me seeing you argue with yourself

 

[catcherintherye]

I attack that plan by revamping the board with forward thinking businessmen who can maximise the club’s potential.

We’re in 2019 and still have the likes of Kenwright and Woods on the board, with a stadium plan being delivered by a failure like Keith Harris and a CEO like DBB who continues to spout rubbish at every opportunity.

Are you seriously putting any of them season performances down to Delph? He wasn’t central to anything, he was a bit part player.

I have a lot of sympathy for the first points you make. I want better at board level, to me we need a least 2 industry leading people to come on board (one as Chairman, one involved in marketing/sales). The point still stands though, how quickly could we make up the gap even with that? And perhaps more pertinently to this particular debate this shouldn't mean we attribute the failures of others to Marcel Brands. Given the hand he's been dealt we appear to be making progress in terms of transfers?

As for Delph no he wasn't the central reason. However my point remains, how many average players get into a side who broke every record in around half of their games? Attach whatever label you wish to him but he is comparable in in all honesty a significant upgrade on any midfielder playing in around 2/3's of the league by that fact alone.

I really struggle with this viewpoint. How many Fulham away performances did Delph put in while he was at City? Or Millwall away? Or Southampton away? Or the majority of the season before?

 

[catcherintherye]

Had one good season with us, two awful ones and then got relegated to the championship with West Brom after an incident whilst away with the team.

Let’s hope Barry’s Everton career is nowhere near what Delph’s turns out to be.

I can't agree with that mate. Even in his final season he was one of our most consistent and reliable players, even when the team was collapsing around him. When he left, and we put Schneiderlin into the midfield, we collapsed that season. It's not a coincidence.

 

[catcherintherye]

Picking off a mix of potential top level younger players and solid experienced players from Man City & Barcelona (& looking at Juventus too).

What a terrible terrible policy. Dreadful.

Woeful.

We should be picking the best players from teams like Leicester and Newcastle.

Dripping with sarcasm.

Brands has been clear he will look to take cast offs from top teams. Everything is about balance. If Delph comes in alongside some younger signings that makes sense. We haven't paid a fortune for him, especially in this market. Manchester United will pay 10 times this amount for Maguire, 6 times the amount for Wan Bissau and double for a lad from the championship.

Liverpool paid about 8 times the amount for Keita. Chelsea did the same for Jorginho.

 

[Michael81]

Steve Bruce officially appointed as Newcastle manager- hopefully get rid of our deadwood now.

 

[orly]

@GwladysBlue and @GwladysPhil are both ace, they just swim against the current

 

[Deleted member 38674]

I’m not sure I’d agree with ‘just about alright’ and ‘neither a good job nor a bad job’.

If people think that the recruitment last season wasn’t good and that he’s more of the same of what we’ve had before then that’s fair enough. I don’t agree with that opinion , but each to their own.

That’s precisely my point. If the yardstick is set on previous Everton transfer dealings, then of course he’s done well.

To bridge the gap to the teams ahead of us, we need to expect more than just what’s gone before. As fans, we need to compare ourselves to the competition, not just what we’ve known. And to be honest, with the money we spent last summer, we should demand better.

Digne is the only one that can truly be called a hit. Richarlison to a lesser extent had a good season and is potentially a very good player but it says a lot that the fans still haven’t taken to him. I think we all know he’s got a Neymar strop in him eventually, he’ll break our hearts.

If you want to rewrite history and say he got 6/6 right, that’s fine but we all know that Mina has largely been poor. He could storm it this year but based purely on what we’ve seen, he’s looking bad business. Zouma did well in patches and was our best CB last year but he was never going to be our player. Bernard’s a decent squad player for where we aspire to be, but no more. Doesn’t contribute anywhere near enough in goals/assists for a starting attacker and shouldn’t be a starter. The same could probably be said of Gomes who disappeared far too often for me.

Some will disagree on that point and thats fine, as you said (to each their own). I just think if we’re really trying to push up the league, we’ll have to do a lot better than Gomes and Delph.

We need more Digne’s and Richarlisons. We also need them faster, because there’s only so long you’ll hang on to players of that quality when you’re not improving substantially / competing at the highest level.

 

[Toffee-nerd]

I attack that plan by revamping the board with forward thinking businessmen who can maximise the club’s potential.

We’re in 2019 and still have the likes of Kenwright and Woods on the board, with a stadium plan being delivered by a failure like Keith Harris and a CEO like DBB who continues to spout rubbish at every opportunity.

Are you seriously putting any of them season performances down to Delph? He wasn’t central to anything, he was a bit part player.

So was digne at Barca. I get your point but things take time. So far since brands and silva took the reigns theres been a marked improvement in performances and the quality of player weve brought in. I'm not saying they should be exempt from criticisn but surely theyve earnt this window to really put their stamp on the squad. They could have completely fluked the transfers last year and let's not forget mina wasnt exactly player of the season either. Whatever, we just have to go with it and get behind them, I do think we are going in the right direction though.

 

[ijjysmith]

Hopefully Brucey can rescue us from 2 of them.

I just find it hard to see anyone buying some of that crap.

Even Steve Bruce.

 

[catcherintherye]

This has to be the way forward doesn’t it. Similar to what Spurs did under Pochettino, he identified what value there was in amongst the raft of signings the previous administration had made. So too Silva has reignited Pickford Keane Gueye and Siggurdson, saving a good chunk of that terrible window. He’s also quickly identified those players who didn’t have value and tried to move them on. We’ve had one very food window which ha helped turn the squad around and now we have to operate on a model of improving season on season and hoping the top 6 stutter. That’s all that Spurs did. Just kept progressing even when they had a few setbacks until one season they were good enough for top 4. There’s no reason we can’t do the same. The history of that top 6 shows thatnif we can get ourselves established into it we’ll have a chance at some point as the fortunes of them tend to wax and wane cyclically.

Yes all very sensible points mate. Some things are lost with Spurs too. Pochettino got less points in his first season than the year before, largely because he inherited team that had amassed (I believe) 70 points. So he was starting from a base that was 20 points higher than where we are. His trajectory was similar to ours as well, up until the spring of his first season there were huge question marks but they went on a great run to end the season.

Pretty much everything Silva and Brands has done has been sensible. They cut the absolute chaff last season and then gave most players a chance. We have a clearer idea now having seen them for a season and he is not being more decisive. It's meant in part, some perfectly decent players are being moved on (Vlasic/Lookman) but we have achieved fees 2-3 times higher than we paid and thats before sell ons are added in from the next sale. It's not ideal but it's making the best of the onmishambles that went before it.

5 of the 6 transfers last summer worked out very well, Mina I actually think was good but just didn't play enough. Thats a fantastic hit rate. Thats crucial for the club now, the signings we bring in have to work. If it means we wait another window/year to get a player in who works we have to do this.

We had the 2nd youngest team last season in the league. We will get better. We continue to bring in younger players but at times you need a bit of experience. Being smart in football is not just about loading up on young players without a clear plan for them (as we've seen with Lookman/Vlasic) but about finding value. To me, at 8 million quid Delph is great value. Had he been 20 I'd be of a different view. I like how we are targeting players towards the end of contracts too, all very smart.

As for moving forward you are right. The top 6 is not a monolithic block sky makes them out to be. With the exception of Tottenham they all carry wage bills that require Champions league football. In the case of Manchester United and Liverpool they require them to go far in the competition. Missing out on those targets causes a whole manner of problems as you can see with Arsenal now (how they wish for the days the just finished 4th eh?). Under those pressures mistakes are made.

If we can continue to improve we could well break in this season. That will be the aim. So far no key player has gone, we do need to sign up Zouma but we have added Delph who will be a good signing for us.

 

[bol-uk]

Picking off a mix of potential top level younger players and solid experienced players from Man City & Barcelona (& looking at Juventus too).

What a terrible terrible policy. Dreadful.

Woeful.

We should be picking the best players from teams like Leicester and Newcastle.

Dripping with sarcasm.

good post

 

[D410]

No it isn’t.

Who do you think we are after first?

 

[Saint Domingo]

THANK YOU

I’m glad I’ve finally found someone else who doesn’t worship Barry as some kind of God for us.

Was far too slow to be playing premier league football past 13/14. Used to hold hands with the centrebacks every game and people wondered why we just got ran through by most teams or why a midfield of Barry Cleverley Barkley couldn’t compete with the likes of Kante Matic Yaya Toure efc.

Was a good player in his day when he moved from Villa to City but we kept him far too long and people’s view of him in the last few seasons is incredible revisionism.