Summer Transfer Window 2019

[KaiserEFC]

A good player is a good player, no matter where they come from.

Keane is from Burnley and is better than Mina who came from Barca, for example.

Would you be turning your nose up at Zara because he is from Palace?

Such a weird way to be trying to make a point.

Is he a better player, how do we know that when Mina hasn’t played?

Yeah I would turn my nose up at Zaha for £80m when I could have Malcom for £30 odd.

What are you feeling positive about for next season?

 

[Furey1878]

Like i said a new RB will arrive... Four more players will coming in

Cheers Marco x

Malcom and some utter boss striker please

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Keane is from Burnley and is better than Mina who came from Barca, for example.

Massively too early to make that judgement.

 

[Furey1878]

Confirmed outs

Jagielka £70k - Free
Williams £70k - Free
Lookman £30k - £22m
Vlasic £25k - £14m
Ramirez - £? - Loan fee?
Tarashaj £15k - Loan fee £500k?
Garbutt £25? - Loan fee?
Dowell £? - Loan fee?
Galloway £20k? - Free
Virginia £? - Loan fee?

Potential outs

Mirallas
Besic
Niasse
Tosum
Martina
McCarthy
Schneiderlin
Walcott
Onyekuru
Bolasie

Mirallas, Tosun, Niasse, Bolasie and McCarthy are the must go men in that list.

No one will want Martina and Walcott and Schneiderlin will still offer something to the team.

Keep forgetting Besic exists.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

A good player is a good player, no matter where they come from.

I agree with this actually

I'd still rather pay 30 Million for a Malcolm who can still grow and improve at 22 rather than spend 80 Million on a Zaha that, though good, just isn't worth that extortionate fee

Malcolm comes here and plays well then we could end up selling him for a tidy profit down the line, which is what Brands is looking to do. Buy young, develop and then sell for a profit

I doubt we'd get our money back for Zaha if we sold him and I also doubt he'd play well enough to make the money back via success on the pitch either

 

[banno]

No, it’s not people assuming the worst, it’s fans keeping an open mind. He’s not put a foot wrong - he’s done neither a good job, nor a bad job. He’ll be judged on his acquisitions (same as Marco will be judged on results) and upto now (granted in a relatively short space of time) he’s done just about alright.

Why does Brands get such protection from our fanbase, as if his leadership cannot be disputed? Me criticising (or not, for that matter) his activities (or lack, thereof) is not going to directly or indirectly affect his ability to do his job. He’s a fair target, just as anyone else is.

Until he’s :

A) Identifying and acquiring players that cost very little and turn out to be worldies (Michu)
B) Negotiating and closing sales for current players above market value
C) Negotiating and closing acquistions for players below their actual market value (Digne)
D) Acquiring players we should have no business signing (Neymar)

Then i’ll gladly grant him all the patience in the world. Those are the four main metrics for a successful director of Football. He has good stock, but then so did Walsh.

No doubt Brands is doing a good job. Gomes and Digne for me are a class above what we usually get for what have turned out to be bargain prices.
Bernard free and Richarlison also looking a steal.
First things first is to strengthen the 1st team (so far he has) then once the 1st team are up to a acceptable level then we search for the potential 'worldies' at very little prices.
We are on a rebuild and 2 seasons is not going to cut it. We cannot do a fast track until the deadwood are finally gone.
He has started the cull but unfortunately the ones on bloated wages still under contract will prove difficult to shift. Until they are gone we are in the market with one hand tied behind our back.
Thumbs up so far for a job well done.
He is not a miracle worker just a competent DOF.

 

[bol-uk]

Ah, so he can crab pass around the midfield.

Once again, I REST MY CASE

 

[bol-uk]

Richarlison didn’t get a call up to the Brazil team until he was here and Bernard hasn’t played for the National team for some time.

Signing Barcelona cast-offs doesn’t automatically make them good players, does it?

So you were not happy about signing them? There was nothing good to say about them?

 

[Saint Domingo]

No, it’s not people assuming the worst, it’s fans keeping an open mind. He’s not put a foot wrong - he’s done neither a good job, nor a bad job. He’ll be judged on his acquisitions (same as Marco will be judged on results) and upto now (granted in a relatively short space of time) he’s done just about alright.

Why does Brands get such protection from our fanbase, as if his leadership cannot be disputed? Me criticising (or not, for that matter) his activities (or lack, thereof) is not going to directly or indirectly affect his ability to do his job. He’s a fair target, just as anyone else is.

Until he’s :

A) Identifying and acquiring players that cost very little and turn out to be worldies (Michu)
B) Negotiating and closing sales for current players above market value
C) Negotiating and closing acquistions for players below their actual market value (Digne)
C) Acquiring players we should have no business signing (Neymar)

Then i’ll gladly grant him all the patience in the world. Those are the four main metrics for a successful director of Football. He has good stock, but then so did Walsh.

I’m not sure I’d agree with ‘just about alright’ and ‘neither a good job nor a bad job’.

The recruitment since Moyes left has been terrible (Lukaku aside). Record fees wasted on players that we are now struggling to get rid of and barely a saleable asset added to team in that time (aside from Gueye). Martinez’s successful singing percentage in terms of incomings was probably less than 50%. Koeman/Walsh’s may be even less than that.

Brands had one shortened window and all 6 of Digne Gomes Richarlison Bernard Zouma and Mina improves the first team. Digne’s value has more than tripled, Richarlisons has more than doubled, Bernard’s will obviously have massively gone up % wise. So after about five years of inept recruitment we then have a guy who seems to have landed 6 for 6 in his first window.

That’s why people are currently giving him the benefit of the doubt. It’s no more than that. It’s a case of seeing what he does this window but viewing it positively based on his good work so far which I do believe he’s been good work to turn us around quickly.

If people think that the recruitment last season wasn’t good and that he’s more of the same of what we’ve had before then that’s fair enough. I don’t agree with that opinion , but each to their own.

Not sure I agree with your metrics of success, especially referencing Michu as a worldy.

I’d say though that Digne was signed for massively below market worth given that Trippier is now being sold at 20 mill and Digne is massively superior. Richarlison has been acquired and will potentially be a worldie. I think he sold Klaassen and Vlasic for above their market value at the time. I think we’ve bought Gomes a lot below his market value when you see fees being banded around for other midfielders.

The last one is impossible for Brands to win on though because by its very nature as soon as we acquire a player they’re no longer deemed as impossible to get. Richarlison was a complete pipe dream at the start of last summer. He was linked to Chelsea and most on here said he’d be too expensive. Second he’s through the door though that’s forgotten about. Same with Mina, we were a smokescreen for United, why would a World Cup star come to us etc. Now that he has that’s all forgotten about. No one would have said we’d be able to get Bernard. If we could get Kean this window he’d fall I got he same bracket for me.

The measure of success for a DOF in my book is whether the squad is improving each season. Is the overall value of this quad getting higher as well as the quality of player. I think Brands has achieved this so far. If the measure of him is going to be whether he has found the next Kante and Mahrez yet for next to nothing or whether he’s managed to surprise us and buy Neymar then he’s on a hiding to nothing.

 

[Zatara]

As i posted 2 days ago, Mandzukic extended his deal at Juve for 2 years in April.

 

[bol-uk]

Mods, please stop me from replying to Gwladysblue, he can't be real, no one is that bad.

 

[Paul Rideout]

Barry is on another level compared to this clown.

I’ll wait to see how he plays for us, if it’s all the same to you.

I remember people saying similar things about Barry when we bought him.

 

[bol-uk]

Barry is on another level compared to this clown.

Still plays for his country and just won the league.

What are you on about mate?

 

[efcste97]

Richarlison didn’t get a call up to the Brazil team until he was here and Bernard hasn’t played for the National team for some time.

Signing Barcelona cast-offs doesn’t automatically make them good players, does it?

So Gomes and Digne aren't good players?

 

[Paul Rideout]

I agree with this actually

I'd still rather pay 30 Million for a Malcolm who can still grow and improve at 22 rather than spend 80 Million on a Zaha that, though good, just isn't worth that extortionate fee

Malcolm comes here and plays well then we could end up selling him for a tidy profit down the line, which is what Brands is looking to do. Buy young, develop and then sell for a profit

I doubt we'd get our money back for Zaha if we sold him and I also doubt he'd play well enough to make the money back via success on the pitch either

A good player is a good player.

I think we’re in agreement, but I’d like to add...

The probability of a good player deemed surplus to requirements at a club like Barcelona is significantly higher than one from, say, Leicester.

Therefore there is (or should be) a higher chance for us to acquire the good player for less money from a Barcelona when said player gets disenfranchised with sitting on the bench. So it follows that buying a player of equal quality from a Barcelona extracts more value than buying from Leicester (for example) as they are less likely to want to hold on to the player, plus the player is more likely to want to leave for better terms for us to play first team footy.

That’s how I see it anyway.