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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

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Bungle said:
At this stage mate it's starting to look a bit like you're obsessed with their coverage of Liverpool a bit too much, I mean by all means point out their bias but it seems to anger and upset you way too much. It's like you've actively sought out their coverage of them just to get angry at it.
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toffeejack said:
Just went onto their homepage, just want to enjoy footy, but I can't anymore because of bbc's joke biased pundits gushing over racist murderers. It's not a lot to want an independent broadcaster to be independent.
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Have to agree with Bungle here. It’s not healthy.
 

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Still can't believe they won the Champions League. We're going on about consolation prize but it just seems like a defence mechanism. Reality is it's the biggest prize in club footy.

I just knew when we were singing 'You're going to win **** all, it was going to bite us. Silver lining it was the game which cost them the title and the fact is we will always have that. I just don't understand why we all decided to sing that out. Why were we so convinced? Were we all being caught up in the moment of how great the game went? Lads at work have been at me about that chant since June 2nd and it grates me that i have to answer for a small minority of our fanbase who got ahead of themselves
 
PaulPowersTash said:
And in truth, bottle it they did. Once again any negativity against them has been airbrushed from history.
They held a 10 point lead after the new year (City had a game in hand) and they blew it. They came to the Etihad and a win would have put them 10 points clear in total. The league would have been over and done with.
It was after that when Klopp started to be far more cautious. He genuinely did blow it against United. That game was there to take.Champions don't blow 10 point leads. They win the big games when they really have to.
They don't go all cautious at a crucial stage in the season. They simply couldn't get over the line and that is what
champions do. If City had blown a 10 point lead from that exact same position it would have been the biggest bottle job ever in the history of the Premier League. I made these points recently to a kopite I unfortunately met a party and he flounced off in a huff! So all the more reason to shout it from the roof tops...
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I think it's a little more complex, but your point is a valid one. In most seasons, drawing at Old Trafford and Everton would be ok to win a league. Context is important though.

In truth I am not sure he could do much more with the Everton game. He was out thought tactically by Silva and Everton executed the game plan very well. We rode our luck a bit for the first 30 minutes but grew into the game. They had to hang in for (particularly) the last 15 minutes. I think he avoids going for that game as he can see there is only likely 1 winner and it isn't them. I actually think he played the game quite well from that perspective and it's not really a bottle job.

The game at Old Trafford was completely different though. United had just been outclassed by PSG and the wind was already coming out of the sails. They were in the midst of showing bottom 6 form. The day itself, they had to play over a half with effectively 10 men as Rashford couldn't run. They also had essentially a 2nd string 11 out. Look who was missing, from memory Jones, Valencia, Darmian, Matic, Herrera, Sanchez, Lingard, Mata, Martial all out injured as well as Rashford who was not fit. It was a a 2nd string side they had out, with young lads making up the numbers.

For me Klopp and Liverpool lost the plot that day. Far too cautious and not enough composure. I think he massively got into them at half time, and the were frenetic, rather than just tell them to be patient, keep moving the ball and United will start to tire and lose the will to compete. Instead they participated in a game that became like a cup tie and allowed a very very poor United team to prevent them from scoring.

That game, above all else will be the one they bottled it for me.
 

joe1878 said:
Long shot but have you got the Rafael on treadmill anywhere?

Such a strange place, only footy forum I can get on in work. Have a nose now and then and they try an out fan each other on there too.

Read a post about someone that got a taxi driver who was a "bitter" and he gave the taxi driver £19.95 even though the fare was 50p, because 1995 was our last cup.

Mutants.

But yeah the Rafael on a treadmill song if you can.
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But 100% wouldn't have happened

What you get on there is bad wools trying dead dead hard to fit in, They're desperate to be excepted by the locals
 
MattEFC89 said:
Still can't believe they won the Champions League. We're going on about consolation prize but it just seems like a defence mechanism. Reality is it's the biggest prize in club footy.

I just knew when we were singing 'You're going to win **** all, it was going to bite us. Silver lining it was the game which cost them the title and the fact is we will always have that. I just don't understand why we all decided to sing that out. Why were we so convinced? Were we all being caught up in the moment of how great the game went? Lads at work have been at me about that chant since June 2nd and it grates me that i have to answer for a small minority of our fanbase who got ahead of themselves
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Its not a defense mechanism at all mate. My missus is a full on Kopite and I can pipe her down in an instant by telling her how they didn't win the league even with having a billion things go in their favour.

I'd rather they have lost the CL final for sure but let's be honest, it's akin to the European Rumbelows Cup they won, not much prestige imo when you've been snotted in 4 games.

They've had their moment and guess what, it's time to move on cos no one is arsed that they won it and the new season will be here soon enough
 
MattEFC89 said:
Still can't believe they won the Champions League. We're going on about consolation prize but it just seems like a defence mechanism. Reality is it's the biggest prize in club footy.

I just knew when we were singing 'You're going to win **** all, it was going to bite us. Silver lining it was the game which cost them the title and the fact is we will always have that. I just don't understand why we all decided to sing that out. Why were we so convinced? Were we all being caught up in the moment of how great the game went? Lads at work have been at me about that chant since June 2nd and it grates me that i have to answer for a small minority of our fanbase who got ahead of themselves
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Lob a paving slab at them then start singing racist songs Matt.
 
MattEFC89 said:
Still can't believe they won the Champions League. We're going on about consolation prize but it just seems like a defence mechanism. Reality is it's the biggest prize in club footy.

I just knew when we were singing 'You're going to win **** all, it was going to bite us. Silver lining it was the game which cost them the title and the fact is we will always have that. I just don't understand why we all decided to sing that out. Why were we so convinced? Were we all being caught up in the moment of how great the game went? Lads at work have been at me about that chant since June 2nd and it grates me that i have to answer for a small minority of our fanbase who got ahead of themselves
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Shurrup lad
 

MattEFC89 said:
Still can't believe they won the Champions League. We're going on about consolation prize but it just seems like a defence mechanism. Reality is it's the biggest prize in club footy.

I just knew when we were singing 'You're going to win **** all, it was going to bite us. Silver lining it was the game which cost them the title and the fact is we will always have that. I just don't understand why we all decided to sing that out. Why were we so convinced? Were we all being caught up in the moment of how great the game went? Lads at work have been at me about that chant since June 2nd and it grates me that i have to answer for a small minority of our fanbase who got ahead of themselves
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It’s 22 people kicking a ball about a pitch, who cares?
 
I live in woolsville but surprised how little they are getting off on their win. Yes their are more commemorative #6 wall charts/mug mats/wanksocks around the office but the bantz (soz) isn't there. Maybe they realise they were lucky to get that far and win it in a crap game against a side that were utter turd in the final. Don't get me wrong I'd like us to win it, even in that fashion but the matching wools I know kinda know the score
 
arch stanton said:
I live in woolsville but surprised how little they are getting off on their win. Yes their are more commemorative #6 wall charts/mug mats/wanksocks around the office but the bantz (soz) isn't there. Maybe they realise they were lucky to get that far and win it in a crap game against a side that were utter turd in the final. Don't get me wrong I'd like us to win it, even in that fashion but the matching wools I know kinda know the score
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This is the point. The only reason people went on about it in 2005 was the manner of the victory, coming back from 3-0 down, albeit against serial bottlers. This time they won a forgettable game, which people promptly forgot.
 
MattEFC89 said:
Still can't believe they won the Champions League. We're going on about consolation prize but it just seems like a defence mechanism. Reality is it's the biggest prize in club footy.

I just knew when we were singing 'You're going to win **** all, it was going to bite us. Silver lining it was the game which cost them the title and the fact is we will always have that. I just don't understand why we all decided to sing that out. Why were we so convinced? Were we all being caught up in the moment of how great the game went? Lads at work have been at me about that chant since June 2nd and it grates me that i have to answer for a small minority of our fanbase who got ahead of themselves
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