ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

[Yarrgh]

Did anyone ever bring this up with Neal again? I always think that when I read it

It's kind of shocking is it not. Look at the response of Grobbelaar in the same article and you see how he was affected by it and his inability to do anything to help. Neal behaved awfully there. A simple few words would have meant a lot to many of those affected by Heysel. Then again, look at the dreadful handling over it since by both Liverpool and Juventus, both sweeping it under the carpet, when direct dealing with it and the aftermath could have soothed the situation.

I pray we are never involved in such an incident, and if it did happen, the club and players would never shirk from responding to it in the best way they could find.

 

[Steve0]

Mate, I didn’t care what Emlyn Hughes said then and I don’t care now. Water off a duck’s back.

So why are you so arsed what blues are saying now? lol lol lol

 

[davek]

The Echo's response to City being referred by UEFA for further investigation on the value of sponsorship deals:

"It has been a difficult week for City".

 

[hallamblue]

It's kind of shocking is it not. Look at the response of Grobbelaar in the same article and you see how he was affected by it and his inability to do anything to help. Neal behaved awfully there. A simple few words would have meant a lot to many of those affected by Heysel. Then again, look at the dreadful handling over it since by both Liverpool and Juventus, both sweeping it under the carpet, when direct dealing with it and the aftermath could have soothed the situation.

I pray we are never involved in such an incident, and if it did happen, the club and players would never shirk from responding to it in the best way they could find.

I know Bill Kenwright takes a lot of stick, but if anything like this happened to us he would be at the forefront of a fitting reaction. That said, I can't imagine how you could make amends for what happened at Heysel. Maybe a self imposed punishment before you were charged and financial assistance for the victims. They were different times, but as you say, neither club reacted the right way.

 

[Saint Domingo]

The Echo's response to City being referred by UEFA for further investigation on the value of sponsorship deals:

"It has been a difficult week for City".

They’re on the cusp of an unprecedented domestic treble with two trophies already in the bag, back to back titles, 198 points over 2 seasons. The British media: ‘difficult week for City’

You wouldn’t even know it was the cup final in 2 days time given that the media are more bothered about 100 ways Liverpool supported could be offended.

 

[Khalekan]

Now even The Racing Post is at it.

Manchester City and Liverpool could dominate Premier League for years to come

Burnley in no danger of the drop with Sean Dyche in the dugout

www.racingpost.com

The big six is no more. There is only the big two. That is the inescapable conclusion to draw from the 2018-19 Premier League season, which was dominated in a manner more familiar with La Liga or the Scottish Premier League.

There is an irony in regard to the latter division because this was the first time in seven seasons in which the age-old Celtic-Rangers stranglehold was reestablished following Rangers’ demotion as a result of their financial turmoil. Prior to that the Glasgow clubs had been first or second in 15 of the previous 16 seasons.

As with Celtic and Rangers, or for that matter Barcelona and Real Madrid, England now has two vastly superior clubs in Manchester City and Liverpool. Time will tell how long that remains the case but it could be a lengthy duopoly.[/b]


They are now proclaiming that, on the strength of on season, English football is now the same sort of “duopoly” that prevails in Scotland and Spain.

 

[Connor]

@Connor @Stav1985 Talking Blues is going well this week.

They’re *not* arsed about us, though

 

[cronullasharks]

Aldo seems like a poor mans Frank Begbie

 

[Toffe3m4n]

No further action to be taken against City.

Naturally, the neighbours aren't too pleased about this development..

 

[dublinbluenose]

Now even The Racing Post is at it.

Manchester City and Liverpool could dominate Premier League for years to come

Burnley in no danger of the drop with Sean Dyche in the dugout

www.racingpost.com

The big six is no more. There is only the big two. That is the inescapable conclusion to draw from the 2018-19 Premier League season, which was dominated in a manner more familiar with La Liga or the Scottish Premier League.

There is an irony in regard to the latter division because this was the first time in seven seasons in which the age-old Celtic-Rangers stranglehold was reestablished following Rangers’ demotion as a result of their financial turmoil. Prior to that the Glasgow clubs had been first or second in 15 of the previous 16 seasons.

As with Celtic and Rangers, or for that matter Barcelona and Real Madrid, England now has two vastly superior clubs in Manchester City and Liverpool. Time will tell how long that remains the case but it could be a lengthy duopoly.[/b]


They are now proclaiming that, on the strength of on season, English football is now the same sort of “duopoly” that prevails in Scotland and Spain.

Both clubs have been juicing, there is no other rational explanation for why two clubs would be so far ahead of clubs with similar payrolls, player profiles, spending power and so on.

See Juventus, Marseille and so on for reference

 

[Saint Domingo]

Now even The Racing Post is at it.

Manchester City and Liverpool could dominate Premier League for years to come

Burnley in no danger of the drop with Sean Dyche in the dugout

www.racingpost.com

The big six is no more. There is only the big two. That is the inescapable conclusion to draw from the 2018-19 Premier League season, which was dominated in a manner more familiar with La Liga or the Scottish Premier League.

There is an irony in regard to the latter division because this was the first time in seven seasons in which the age-old Celtic-Rangers stranglehold was reestablished following Rangers’ demotion as a result of their financial turmoil. Prior to that the Glasgow clubs had been first or second in 15 of the previous 16 seasons.

As with Celtic and Rangers, or for that matter Barcelona and Real Madrid, England now has two vastly superior clubs in Manchester City and Liverpool. Time will tell how long that remains the case but it could be a lengthy duopoly.[/b]


They are now proclaiming that, on the strength of on season, English football is now the same sort of “duopoly” that prevails in Scotland and Spain.

If Liverpool hadn’t of had the stars align for them this season they’d have probably done a Spurs, dropped quite a few behind City and then stared to concentrate on other things and end up quite a lot of points behind. It was only because every time it looked like Liverpool were going to slip out they managed to fluke some sort of weird goal.

They struggled to score against us home or away, they arguably shouldn’t have beaten Fulham home or away, they should have dropped points to Spurs, and Newcastle, probably lost to Chelsea, City should have beaten them at Anfield then there’s all the offside goals.

They could put the exact same level of performance in next season and easily finish 10-15 points further back. There weren’t any games this season where you were thinking ‘Liverpool deserved more from that than they got’ in fact the opposite was true most week.

Whereas City had a few bad games and lost them all, but every single other game they just cruised through. Perhaps only the Leicester game you might say the wonder goal was lucky but every other game they just scored the goals and opposition barely touched them.

It came down to a point but there was a yawning chasm between the teams. I see City as a mile ahead of everyone and that was even with De Bruyne injured. I then see Spurs and Liverpool a fair way back about 5 points better off than Arsenal and Chelsea and United a distant 6th based on performance levels this season.

The fact that Liverpool couldn’t win at the Etihad, Old Trafford, the Emirates, Goodison, or Stamford Bridge shows they’re not at the same level of City.

With VAR and hopefully a kinder injury list to City they’ll be miles behind next season. This was heir chance at the title, a perfect storm, and they messed it up.

 

[davek]

They’re on the cusp of an unprecedented domestic treble with two trophies already in the bag, back to back titles, 198 points over 2 seasons. The British media: ‘difficult week for City’

You wouldn’t even know it was the cup final in 2 days time given that the media are more bothered about 100 ways Liverpool supported could be offended.

City: crisis club.

Only the Kult's favourite local newpaper could come up with that line.

Goebbels would watch on in awe at the way the enemies of the LFC Reich are represented.

 

[Jacob]

Well Aldo The Oracle has passed judgement...…or thrown the towel in. I cant really make my mind up to be honest.

Manchester City must get punished if they've breached financial rules

John Aldridge: 'Manchester City must get punished if they’ve breached financial rules' - Independent.ie

It looks like Manchester City are finally about to get punished for their blatant financial outlay, but their domestic rivals will not be compensated for the pollution they have created

www.independent.ie

It looks like Manchester City are finally about to get punished for their blatant financial outlay, but their domestic rivals will not be compensated for the pollution they have created in the English game. City won the Premier League title for a second successive season on Sunday and no-one can deny that they are a fantastic team, led by a brilliant manager in Pep Guardiola who has taken full advantage of everything coming his way since he arrived at the club three years ago.
However, City’s owners have achieved their domination of the English game by spending their way to the top, and now there are allegations that they have flouted Financial Fair Play rules - a move which may be finally about to bite them.
UEFA are reported to be preparing to throw them out of the Champions League for a season.
One of the allegations in UEFA’s probe is that City have been inflating the sponsorship deals they have signed with companies under control of the club’s owners for years. If this is true, they should be punished.
It remains to be seen whether UEFA will follow through on their threat to kick them out of the Champions League, but at least they appear to be considering this option and giving City a punishment that would really hurt them.
City simply have to win Europe’s biggest competition to be taken seriously as a big club, but the reality is they have not even come close to reaching a Champions League final despite spending £1billion to build their dream team over the last decade.
Yet while European success continues to elude them, City are developing a vice-like grip over the English game and that should be a concern for Premier League chiefs.
City will become the first team in history to win a domestic treble when they beat Watford in Saturday’s FA Cup final and I see them repeating this level success time and again over the next few years.
Guardiola has had the luxury of making a few disastrous signings and blowing £100m and brushing it off as if he had dropped a penny, but no other club in the Premier League can just spend and spend again if they make transfer mistakes on that scale.
Every other Premier League club (aside from Chelsea) buys players with the cash they generate through their own business, but City have a different business model and this is why I can’t see them being beaten in the title race for a long time to come.
Liverpool did incredibly well to hang on to their coat tails and give them a real scare in the title race that ended in predictable fashion on Sunday, but City are so far ahead of most teams in England that they can stroll to victories most weeks without breaking sweat.
They won 14 games in succession to win the title by a point and at least 10 of those games came against opponents who knew they were beaten before a ball had been kicked. It will be incredibly tough for Liverpool to collect 97 points against next season and as we have seen, even that ridiculous points total is not enough to stop City winning the league.
If City are thrown out of next season’s Champions League, I would expect them to run away with the Premier League title and have it all-but wrapped up by February, as they did last season.

Everyone should be grateful to Liverpool for keeping the title race interesting because third-placed Chelsea were 26 points behind City and it would not surprise me if they reached the 100-point mark again next season after they spend another £150m in the transfer market this summer. What happens if Manchester City win the domestic treble in England for the next five years? Will anyone still be interested in watching the Premier League aside from their relatively modest fanbase?

Of course, there is a way to stop them in their tracks and it means those in charge of English football following UEFA’s lead and by giving them suitable punishment for breaking the rules of the game. Fining a football club that has unlimited funds is pointless, but threatening them with points deductions would certainly focus their mind and maybe the only way to encourage them to change their ways.

 

[davek]

Well Aldo The Oracle has passed judgement...…or thrown the towel in. I cant really make my mind up to be honest.

Manchester City must get punished if they've breached financial rules

John Aldridge: 'Manchester City must get punished if they’ve breached financial rules' - Independent.ie

It looks like Manchester City are finally about to get punished for their blatant financial outlay, but their domestic rivals will not be compensated for the pollution they have created

www.independent.ie

It looks like Manchester City are finally about to get punished for their blatant financial outlay, but their domestic rivals will not be compensated for the pollution they have created in the English game. City won the Premier League title for a second successive season on Sunday and no-one can deny that they are a fantastic team, led by a brilliant manager in Pep Guardiola who has taken full advantage of everything coming his way since he arrived at the club three years ago.
However, City’s owners have achieved their domination of the English game by spending their way to the top, and now there are allegations that they have flouted Financial Fair Play rules - a move which may be finally about to bite them.
UEFA are reported to be preparing to throw them out of the Champions League for a season.
One of the allegations in UEFA’s probe is that City have been inflating the sponsorship deals they have signed with companies under control of the club’s owners for years. If this is true, they should be punished.
It remains to be seen whether UEFA will follow through on their threat to kick them out of the Champions League, but at least they appear to be considering this option and giving City a punishment that would really hurt them.
City simply have to win Europe’s biggest competition to be taken seriously as a big club, but the reality is they have not even come close to reaching a Champions League final despite spending £1billion to build their dream team over the last decade.
Yet while European success continues to elude them, City are developing a vice-like grip over the English game and that should be a concern for Premier League chiefs.
City will become the first team in history to win a domestic treble when they beat Watford in Saturday’s FA Cup final and I see them repeating this level success time and again over the next few years.
Guardiola has had the luxury of making a few disastrous signings and blowing £100m and brushing it off as if he had dropped a penny, but no other club in the Premier League can just spend and spend again if they make transfer mistakes on that scale.
Every other Premier League club (aside from Chelsea) buys players with the cash they generate through their own business, but City have a different business model and this is why I can’t see them being beaten in the title race for a long time to come.
Liverpool did incredibly well to hang on to their coat tails and give them a real scare in the title race that ended in predictable fashion on Sunday, but City are so far ahead of most teams in England that they can stroll to victories most weeks without breaking sweat.
They won 14 games in succession to win the title by a point and at least 10 of those games came against opponents who knew they were beaten before a ball had been kicked. It will be incredibly tough for Liverpool to collect 97 points against next season and as we have seen, even that ridiculous points total is not enough to stop City winning the league.
If City are thrown out of next season’s Champions League, I would expect them to run away with the Premier League title and have it all-but wrapped up by February, as they did last season.

Everyone should be grateful to Liverpool for keeping the title race interesting because third-placed Chelsea were 26 points behind City and it would not surprise me if they reached the 100-point mark again next season after they spend another £150m in the transfer market this summer. What happens if Manchester City win the domestic treble in England for the next five years? Will anyone still be interested in watching the Premier League aside from their relatively modest fanbase?

Of course, there is a way to stop them in their tracks and it means those in charge of English football following UEFA’s lead and by giving them suitable punishment for breaking the rules of the game. Fining a football club that has unlimited funds is pointless, but threatening them with points deductions would certainly focus their mind and maybe the only way to encourage them to change their ways.

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

The scale of Liverpool's failure is there in that last sentence demanding City start off next season with a points deduction.

The humiliation is complete.

"Aldo" demanding the PL be turned into a handicap race to allow Liverpool a chance of winning it for the first time in 30 years.

Your surrender is duly noted and accepted.

 

[mahermi1]

Well Aldo The Oracle has passed judgement...…or thrown the towel in. I cant really make my mind up to be honest.

Manchester City must get punished if they've breached financial rules

John Aldridge: 'Manchester City must get punished if they’ve breached financial rules' - Independent.ie

It looks like Manchester City are finally about to get punished for their blatant financial outlay, but their domestic rivals will not be compensated for the pollution they have created

www.independent.ie

It looks like Manchester City are finally about to get punished for their blatant financial outlay, but their domestic rivals will not be compensated for the pollution they have created in the English game. City won the Premier League title for a second successive season on Sunday and no-one can deny that they are a fantastic team, led by a brilliant manager in Pep Guardiola who has taken full advantage of everything coming his way since he arrived at the club three years ago.
However, City’s owners have achieved their domination of the English game by spending their way to the top, and now there are allegations that they have flouted Financial Fair Play rules - a move which may be finally about to bite them.
UEFA are reported to be preparing to throw them out of the Champions League for a season.
One of the allegations in UEFA’s probe is that City have been inflating the sponsorship deals they have signed with companies under control of the club’s owners for years. If this is true, they should be punished.
It remains to be seen whether UEFA will follow through on their threat to kick them out of the Champions League, but at least they appear to be considering this option and giving City a punishment that would really hurt them.
City simply have to win Europe’s biggest competition to be taken seriously as a big club, but the reality is they have not even come close to reaching a Champions League final despite spending £1billion to build their dream team over the last decade.
Yet while European success continues to elude them, City are developing a vice-like grip over the English game and that should be a concern for Premier League chiefs.
City will become the first team in history to win a domestic treble when they beat Watford in Saturday’s FA Cup final and I see them repeating this level success time and again over the next few years.
Guardiola has had the luxury of making a few disastrous signings and blowing £100m and brushing it off as if he had dropped a penny, but no other club in the Premier League can just spend and spend again if they make transfer mistakes on that scale.
Every other Premier League club (aside from Chelsea) buys players with the cash they generate through their own business, but City have a different business model and this is why I can’t see them being beaten in the title race for a long time to come.
Liverpool did incredibly well to hang on to their coat tails and give them a real scare in the title race that ended in predictable fashion on Sunday, but City are so far ahead of most teams in England that they can stroll to victories most weeks without breaking sweat.
They won 14 games in succession to win the title by a point and at least 10 of those games came against opponents who knew they were beaten before a ball had been kicked. It will be incredibly tough for Liverpool to collect 97 points against next season and as we have seen, even that ridiculous points total is not enough to stop City winning the league.
If City are thrown out of next season’s Champions League, I would expect them to run away with the Premier League title and have it all-but wrapped up by February, as they did last season.

Everyone should be grateful to Liverpool for keeping the title race interesting because third-placed Chelsea were 26 points behind City and it would not surprise me if they reached the 100-point mark again next season after they spend another £150m in the transfer market this summer. What happens if Manchester City win the domestic treble in England for the next five years? Will anyone still be interested in watching the Premier League aside from their relatively modest fanbase?

Of course, there is a way to stop them in their tracks and it means those in charge of English football following UEFA’s lead and by giving them suitable punishment for breaking the rules of the game. Fining a football club that has unlimited funds is pointless, but threatening them with points deductions would certainly focus their mind and maybe the only way to encourage them to change their ways.

"Honest John " thank god for this bastion of fair play and his straight down the middle unbiased views. Every drunken unwashed tramp in the land should take note. Respecto Aldo !