ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

[adi dassler]

When we’re satisfied through email, IP address and social media matches.

Might take some longer than others but once we’re certain.

Whoever their DoF is has to be right up there as one of the best if not the best in football right now.

Robertson Matip and Gomez cost peanuts and their front 3 cost less than £90 million.

Fabinho looks class when i've seen him and they plugged the weaker positions at CB and GK.

Ridiculous recruitment i begrudglingly have to admit.

Surely there can be no doubt about this helmet???

 

[catcherintherye]

Whoever their DoF is has to be right up there as one of the best if not the best in football right now.

Robertson Matip and Gomez cost peanuts and their front 3 cost less than £90 million.

Fabinho looks class when i've seen him and they plugged the weaker positions at CB and GK.

Ridiculous recruitment i begrudglingly have to admit.

Is that really so?

Fabinho doesn't look class, he has had a handful of good games and a number of poor ones. 3 months ago most kopites wanted him bounced out.

Given Salah cost 45 million and Mane 40 I'm not sure how the front 3 was less than 90 unless they go Firmino for free?

They have plugged the positions by buying the most expensive players in the history of football for each position.

They have done well with recruitment, bit given they have outspent almost every team in the world you would expect that to be the case really. It can hardly come as a great surprise, that a surprise who buys the league has some good players.

 

[PITA]

I sense you are right. Arsenal are longer term build. United look a mess to me, this Solskiaar appointment will prove a disaster. Spurs will do ok but have huge cost to repay on the stadium. Chelsea look insecure to me but will always be a threat. City are miles ahead of them though, it's just that this season they've missed most of their key players for large chunks of the season.

Liverpool are their main competitors though and are outspending everyone to get there. We have to hope that they don't win the league in that time, and the spending eventually causes (another) Leeds scenario which is allowed to play out this time without high level interference. They were a few days away from admin and relegation last time.

To be fair the RS are looking like they'll be just shy of 100 points. That's on then getting the results NOT on City not getting results due to injuries. How much help the RS have been given getting to that total notwithstanding.

 

[HongKongToffee]

Is that really so?

Fabinho doesn't look class, he has had a handful of good games and a number of poor ones. 3 months ago most kopites wanted him bounced out.

Given Salah cost 45 million and Mane 40 I'm not sure how the front 3 was less than 90 unless they go Firmino for free?

They have plugged the positions by buying the most expensive players in the history of football for each position.

They have done well with recruitment, bit given they have outspent almost every team in the world you would expect that to be the case really. It can hardly come as a great surprise, that a surprise who buys the league has some good players.

Salah was £36 million, Mane £34 million firmino £29 million according to Wikipedia, my bad just under £100 million, you might be using the € rate from before Brexit when it was far weaker than the pound.

I think you have to put both state owned clubs as the biggest spenders, Mbappe was £166 million last summer and £225 million for neymar the summer before, Pep has spent just over £500 million in the last 4 windows.

 

[PITA]

Whoever their DoF is has to be right up there as one of the best if not the best in football right now.

Robertson Matip and Gomez cost peanuts and their front 3 cost less than £90 million.

Fabinho looks class when i've seen him and they plugged the weaker positions at CB and GK.

Ridiculous recruitment i begrudglingly have to admit.

LOL at HongKongCockwomble.

 

[PITA]

Well, If that's the case, surely the rational answer is "then don't". You really need to accept the tenor of this thread...most clubs have one of similar ilk - have you never heard of RAWK's "Lets All laugh at Everton" one. There we had to endure them making unsubstantiated claims that Evertonians made horrible gestures at derby games and defiled the Hillsborough Memorial....after all the "He Aint Heavy, Hes my Brother" wonderful tributes of this club and its supporters. Noone bothered their arse to refute the claims there ….so whats that analogy about "good men saying nothing" ? Speaking as someone coping with serious health problems, I come on here to have a bloody good laugh and lighten up and even, heaven forbid, rationalise... not to endure hand ringing, maudlin, amateur dramatics-type knuckle-rapping. Believe me, theres worse things, you know, than being called a cult.

That's because they can't accuse us of killing rival fans, rocking ambulances or wearing T-shirts to support a racist.

 

[Zartan]

Salah was £36 million, Mane £34 million firmino £29 million according to Wikipedia, my bad just under £100 million, you might be using the € rate from before Brexit when it was far weaker than the pound.

I think you have to put both state owned clubs as the biggest spenders, Mbappe was £166 million last summer and £225 million for neymar the summer before, Pep has spent just over £500 million in the last 4 windows.

Who gives a flying one about how much they’ve spent on players?

 

[HongKongToffee]

I am aware of what happened with Leeds mate, and also what happened with Liverpool under H + G. Leeds went into admin, Liverpool effectively did as well.

Wishful thinking that it could happen to a club with a £500 million turnover, they are signing with Nike for a kit deal at £80-90 million a year, they are printing money under Klopp with these CL runs and title challengers and their present owners are ex wall street hedge funders instead of ex owners who between them financially ruined 4 sports teams including Montreal Canadiens, Texas Rangers and Palmeiras.

United have a debt of £650 million right now, Chelsea have a debt owed to Abramovich for £1.2 billion, and Spurs was just reported to have a debt of £700 million for stadium costs.

You think any of those clubs will do a "Leeds", all those clubs above plus Arsenal and City are going to be in a even more lucrative closed shop Champions League in 2024-2025.

 

[macdog]

Ho ho ho. Plug - That's my new nickname for the holding-the-world-record-for-most-expensive-defender Van Dijk.

One of those diamond-studded butt-plugs.

 

[daza_1973]

Salah was £36 million, Mane £34 million firmino £29 million according to Wikipedia, my bad just under £100 million, you might be using the € rate from before Brexit when it was far weaker than the pound.

I think you have to put both state owned clubs as the biggest spenders, Mbappe was £166 million last summer and £225 million for neymar the summer before, Pep has spent just over £500 million in the last 4 windows.

Can't really compare them prices to the last two summers prices - Four years ago the £29 million they paid for Firmino would probably equate to the region of £60-70 million in todays money and the same goes for the rest.

 

[helpimonfire]

RS moaning all over facebook that the BBC are biased towards City and have ignored them.

Oh the Irony

 

[catcherintherye]

Salah was £36 million, Mane £34 million firmino £29 million according to Wikipedia, my bad just under £100 million, you might be using the € rate from before Brexit when it was far weaker than the pound.

I think you have to put both state owned clubs as the biggest spenders, Mbappe was £166 million last summer and £225 million for neymar the summer before, Pep has spent just over £500 million in the last 4 windows.

Over the last 12-18 months Liverpool are right up there with them. They have one of the biggest wage budgets in European football and sit second in their domestic league. They are performing as they ought too aren't they?

 

[daza_1973]

RS moaning all over facebook that the BBC are biased towards City and have ignored them.

Oh the Irony

The BBC breakfast sport were prattling on about Salah on the front of TIME magazine this morning - who much coverage do these bells wan't ??

 

[catcherintherye]

Wishful thinking that it could happen to a club with a £500 million turnover, they are signing with Nike for a kit deal at £80-90 million a year, they are printing money under Klopp with these CL runs and title challengers and their present owners are ex wall street hedge funders instead of ex owners who between them financially ruined 4 sports teams including Montreal Canadiens, Texas Rangers and Palmeiras.

United have a debt of £650 million right now, Chelsea have a debt owed to Abramovich for £1.2 billion, and Spurs was just reported to have a debt of £700 million for stadium costs.

You think any of those clubs will do a "Leeds", all those clubs above plus Arsenal and City are going to be in a even more lucrative closed shop Champions League in 2024-2025.

With the nicest will in the world mate, I remember having very similar conversations with people around Leeds around the same time, who came back with the exact same derisory rhetoric that it could never happen. Likewise with Liverpool around 10 years ago. It happens.

Their turnover was substantially below the 500 million figure (again you rally mist fact check these numbers) and this was largely down to a world record fee from Coutinho. If they continue to sell their best player every year, and continue to have long runs in the CL then the problems will not come no. If that situation changes then it can unravel quite quickly (as it did for Benitez). The debt is already at quite substantial level for Liverpool.

Their owners are shrewd business people but if they get exposed on debt will hike rates.

I am not saying it's imminent I am saying the most likely scenario if they were to fall away currently would be issued around the debt pressing them.

They will be fine for a time, Salah will go for £100+ million and I'd imagine they could fetch £50+ for Mane which will help them out.

As for the other teams. Arsenal are already scaling back. Chelsea are also teetering. United could start to feel the pinch too. Lets be frank, would any of us feel any great sympathy if the 4 teams above ended up collapsing under the debt mountain they've built up obscuring the league? Good riddance to bad rubbish I would say.

 

[helpimonfire]

The BBC breakfast sport were prattling on about Salah on the front of TIME magazine this morning - who much coverage do these bells wan't ??

Ah yes. Mo the important.

An.inspiration to everyone. What a guy.

World peace next for him.