Michael Jackson

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Yeah he admitted it in the bashir interview. How many people claimed he did it? 2? Out of how many kids who stayed at Neverland? Did he just fancy those 2?
That's a really weird (and just generally awful) argument for defence isn't it? It's like arguing that Ted Bundy wasn't a murderer because he didn't kill everyone he met.
 

I don't believe he was a nonce personally but that isn't saying he didn't ever do anything that has to be classed as seriously inappropriate and wrong. He's not blameless despite what many persist.

The distinction I make is that I don't believe he touched or had kids do things for his own sexual gratification, just studying the bloke he was clearly an asexual (they definitely exist). There's no stories even in the younger years of him sleeping with groupies, women or men. Those kids he was raising, Prince, Paris and Blanket, are clearly not his. You telling me he knocked up or a woman or provided a sperm sample? Lisa Marie Presley said the bloke had no sex drive whatsoever even when she demanded it of him whilst they were together, it was as if he had no clue that intercourse between married couples is a regular and expected thing.

Clearly a seriously damaged guy who was taken advantage of but he was not without very real faults that he wouldn't address for the good of himself. He had plenty of money and the time to be able to get the professional help he so clearly needed to possibly make peace with his past and get himself together in order to live a healthy and proper life. He always refused to take responsibilty and instead played the victim whenever he could, like a kid.

Sad story.
 
I don't believe he was a nonce personally but that isn't saying he didn't ever do anything that has to be classed as seriously inappropriate and wrong. He's not blameless despite what many persist.

The distinction I make is that I don't believe he touched or had kids do things for his own sexual gratification, just studying the bloke he was clearly an asexual (they definitely exist). There's no stories even in the younger years of him sleeping with groupies, women or men. Those kids he was raising, Prince, Paris and Blanket, are clearly not his. You telling me he knocked up or a woman or provided a sperm sample? Lisa Marie Presley said the bloke had no sex drive whatsoever even when she demanded it of him whilst they were together, it was as if he had no clue that intercourse between married couples is a regular and expected thing.

Clearly a seriously damaged guy who was taken advantage of but he was not without very real faults that he wouldn't address for the good of himself. He had plenty of money and the time to be able to get the professional help he so clearly needed to possibly make peace with his past and get himself together in order to live a healthy and proper life. He always refused to take responsibilty and instead played the victim whenever he could, like a kid.

Sad story.

He’s clearly asexual in your opinion in the opinion of other people he sexually abused children . The fact he didn’t have Sex with adult or teenage women doesn’t have a lot of impact on his possible predilection for underage boys .
 

That's a really weird (and just generally awful) argument for defence isn't it? It's like arguing that Ted Bundy wasn't a murderer because he didn't kill everyone he met.

what? One who actually did murder people and was convicted and one who was found innocent twice? What kind arguement is that?
 
Who also paid a few kids off.

He

Slept

in

bed

with

kids!!!

but none of that means he did anything sexual with them! He was weird no doubt at all. The paying people off shouldn't be held against him, loads of famous people do it and it was his management who wanted it so he could carry on touring
 

He’s clearly asexual in your opinion in the opinion of other people he sexually abused children . The fact he didn’t have Sex with adult or teenage women doesn’t have a lot of impact on his possible predilection for underage boys .

They can have that opinion if they want but they can't go around stating it as if it's a well known fact, it was never proven in the court of law and all the evidence against was circumstantial and his word against another's. I don't care for the bloke much personally for the reasons I outlined in my previous post but it can't be one rule for him and another others. It's innocent until proven guilty in a democracy and like it or not he never was
 

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