2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[Zatara]

That’s what Mina was trying to do for the first goal though.

Beat me to it !

 

[Tubey]

I honestly just think its impatience Zat, I think it's that simple. As a club we are just in no mans land and clubs we have always considered to be our peers throughout our history have pulled away from us and it's causing mass panic. people are scared that we are forever lost to the elite, which is where we have been the majority of our existence.

People just want it back and when a new owner comes on board and basically says he will deliver just that, it's thrown expectation sky high. That's my take on it.

It's not impatience. I personally saw this as a transition season from the outset. I expected nothing.

The problem is I see no sign of a transition to anything that will get results in the long term. If I saw anything to suggest Silva's a decent manager going through a rough patch, then I wouldn't be having this conversation, because this season was always going to be rough. But I've seen nothing from him, and there's nothing in his track record to suggest he has anything.

"Transition" isn't an excuse for being terrible.

 

[BernieH]

I think Mina was meant to be doing this...the other 2 are so soft they will be binned off surely.

Jags would have done better against millwall.




Think about it mate...

Which of our players would be 'free to react' ?

Thats exactly what they arent doing!

People can say what they want against Jags, but he always threw himself in front of things, as you say they are soft.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Think about it mate...

Which of our players would be 'free to react' ?

Thats exactly what they arent doing!

The instructions are all wrong. He's saying player A, you mark this 4x4 metre space, player B you stand here, player C you're to stand on this blade of grass and not move. Leighton, you're on the big guy.

Why not player A, you're marking this guy. Player B, you're on him. You two, you're on the posts. You three, you're to stand on the 6-yard line and keep an eye on any runners, and the others you're to watch out for short passes and react to the second ball.

 

[tsubaki]

It's not impatience. I personally saw this as a transition season from the outset. I expected nothing.

The problem is I see no sign of a transition to anything that will get results in the long term. If I saw anything to suggest Silva's a decent manager going through a rough patch, then I wouldn't be having this conversation, because this season was always going to be rough. But I've seen nothing from him, and there's nothing in his track record to suggest he has anything.

"Transition" isn't an excuse for being terrible.

Tonight is a massive game for him; if there’s no real change - either tactics or result - I think a lot of people will be in the get rid camp. I know I will, because to continue down this path is madness.

 

[BernieH]

It's not impatience. I personally saw this as a transition season from the outset. I expected nothing.

The problem is I see no sign of a transition to anything that will get results in the long term. If I saw anything to suggest Silva's a decent manager going through a rough patch, then I wouldn't be having this conversation, because this season was always going to be rough. But I've seen nothing from him, and there's nothing in his track record to suggest he has anything.

"Transition" isn't an excuse for being terrible.

I do agree,nowhere near good enough and I am not one to flog a dead horse but I still think it's premature to pull the trigger. Unless it gets untenable then back to square one and we don't need to be going back to square one. At some point we have to be strong and show some faith or it will be like this year in year out and I personally do not want that.

 

[Lanolin]

People can say what they want against Jags, but he always through himself in front of things, as you say they are soft.

I think part of it is awareness aswell. I've said for a long time that I don't think Keane 'senses' danger in the way that somebody like Jagielka does (there are of course better examples of it than Jagielka before anyone starts, I'm just talking about our own players). Players like that see what's going to happen and do everything they can to stop it, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. When I like at Keane in particular, and some of the others, they just don't seem to see that one step ahead. They only realise someone's going to score as they're in the act of doing it, rather than reading the situation as it's unfolding.

 

[kenada_blue]

I think Mina was meant to be doing this...the other 2 are so soft they will be binned off surely.

Jags would have done better against millwall.




Think about it mate...

Which of our players would be 'free to react' ?

Thats exactly what they arent doing!

Keane's positional play is generally awful. He cant judge the flight of the ball or anticipate an attackers movement.

So expecting him to be key to zonal marking is a problem.

 

[BernieH]

I think part of it is awareness aswell. I've said for a long time that I don't think Keane 'senses' danger in the way that somebody like Jagielka does (there are of course better examples of it than Jagielka before anyone starts, I'm just talking about our own players). Players like that see what's going to happen and do everything they can to stop it, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. When I like at Keane in particular, and some of the others, they just don't seem to see that one step ahead. They only realise someone's going to score as they're in the act of doing it, rather than reading the situation as it's unfolding.

That's it, if you don't have pace then your reading of the game needs to be next level and we clearly don't have that kind of defender. I think we are missing an organiser too.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Richarlison is a turnover machine with a poor attitude that refuses to pass.

Bernard refuses to pass in the final third, and has zero finishing ability.

Walcott is a turnover nightmare pace merchant.

We do not have a premier quality CF.

Gana does not contribute offensively.

Gomes is being game planned against as our only real threat to transition from defense to offense.

Sigurdsson cannot both assist and finish every goal.

Seamus is sadly unable to make up for his lack of talent with effort post injury.

Our CBs are struggling with the liability that is Pickford.

Digne is class.

These are the players we have been dealt. Give the manager time to sort this mess out.

Richarlison and Bernard, both players brought in under Silva.

Silva should drop Gomes then if it's not working, but continues to play him.

We should have more than enough quality to be picking up more than 2 points against Southampton, Brighton, Newcastle, Watford and Leicester.

Silva continues to keep playing the same tactics even though they're not working.

It's not Pickford's (even though he can be blamed for a lot of things) fault our CBs can't head the ball away, or pick - up opposition players.

I'm not saying we should sack Silva.

 

[Zatara]

The instructions are all wrong. He's saying player A, you mark this 4x4 metre space, player B you stand here, player C you're to stand on this blade of grass and not move. Leighton, you're on the big guy.

Why not player A, you're marking this guy. Player B, you're on him. You two, you're on the posts. You three, you're to stand on the 6-yard line and keep an eye on any runners, and the others you're to watch out for short passes and react to the second ball.

Not really....

Hes got some players zonal and the 2 CBs free to attack the ball...

Snag is Mina is the only one not suffering from cowardice @jazzy (allegedly)

 

[Dorf]

Seems like he wants to play like Barca or Man. City but he hasn't got the players to do so. He should work on being solid first and play to our strengths. Counter-attacking, as in hitting teams on the break probably suits us best. Then eventually bringing in better more intellegent passers of the ball so we can actually play tappy tappy football and then replace the solid defenders with ones who are both solid and can play from the back. You don't see Brighton try and play tappy tappy football because Houghton knows he doesn't have the players.

Honestly, I'm not seeing improvements from players or a style of play where I can accept that we're making progress slowly. I'd be a lot more patient if I could.

 

[Tubey]

Both players brought in under Silva.

We should have enough quality to be picking up more than 2 points against Southampton, Brighton, Newcastle, Watford and Leicester.

Silva continues to keep playing the same tactics even though they're not working.

It's not Pickford's (even though he can be blamed for a lot of things) fault our CBs can't head the ball away, or pick - up opposition players.

This is the problem in a nutshell.

Zonal is a symptom of it. The players can't do it - "I've got to stick to my zone; it doesn't matter that nobody is in it and three players are in another persons zone - this zone is my responsibility."

 

[zzr45]

Pep Guardiola
Jurgen Klopp
Mauricio Pochettino
Antonio Conte
Sarri
Mourinho


Yeah they shouldnt have been hired lol

“You have to look at yourself and see what [you] have to do to help them find each other and play to each other more fluently, not all the time with [aggression] and all these kind of things. That is my job. I have to help them. And I tell them. And most of the times we were not good, it was my responsibility.” Pep Guardiola - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/07/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-mistakes

'“The job is massively and completely different and that makes me a much better manager than I was when I started,” Klopp added. “A lot of teams saw that we were good at that [Liverpool’s counter-pressing style] and realised they were overplaying. It’s like we were so lively in the past that the moment we couldn’t be lively because there was no space for that it was like there was immediately this drop in concentration. That is not allowed. I like it more now actually. It is more mature. That was the next step for us. So far so good.” - Jurgen Klopp https://www.90min.com/posts/6236188...season-insists-he-will-not-have-christmas-off

'I like to spark debate with the players, whether in the team briefings or during the tactic sessions: their ideas can generate new solutions.' - Pochettino in his book Brave New World

'As last season proved, there probably isn’t a coach in the modern game as good as Conte at quickly assessing what he’s got in his team and successfully adapting to maximise their qualities.' Antonio Conte https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-theyve-been-exposed-at-chelsea-a8199381.html

'Sarri is the type of manager that sticks to his system and shape and makes small adjustments as needed during a match. But the starting point is always the same. That can create a very consistent team, like it did with Arsene Wenger’s Arsenal, but it can also create a team unable to reach the greatest of heights. If results start to turn, Sarri has to prove that he can adapt away from his favored 4-3-3 shape and the roles within. ' On Sarri who is potentially under acheving. https://theprideoflondon.com/2018/1...show-adaptability-results-start-turn-chelsea/

Mourinho failed to adapt - https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/f...-adapt-modern-players-summer-axe-Manager-News

What point are you trying to make again Zat?

 

[BlueToff]

I get that, I think for Silva to come out and say his system was perfect however is the height of arrogance, whatever his (or one assumes, one of his coaches) version of Zonal marking just isn't working. Reading his press conference and watching it back it looks like it just isn't clicking. It looks like training has be utterly focused on the first ball and thats it.

Think that equally goes for the attacking system, if a first time ball doesn't come off, we actually look flustered.

He hasn't said that, has he?