January 2019 Transfer Window

[devlinadl]

By having such a high wage Base it actually allows us to expand quickly it in the future as ffp caps year on year increases. Just a thought....

No it doesn't. You're mixing up STCC, which is imposed by the Premier League, with FFP, which is imposed by UEFA. FFP is calculated ona rolling three year basis. STCC resets every year at the level of the previous year.

 

[davek]

Are you really so bloody dense?


In 2017 Everton spent £104.6m on wages, in 2018 it was £145m.

There is a cap of increasing wages by £7m per season.

This can be exceeded though by increasing income from player sales, match day recenue and commerical income increases.


Our match day income is pitiful so that won't help. Commercial income, we got USM to sponsorship Finch Farm which allowed the purchasing of players and £40m increase in the wage bill. Other commerical & sponroship income will be hard to get because it is scrutinised and based on fair market stuff.


So we have to get rid of players either on loan or selling them to free up wages in order to make sure we don't break any FFP rules.

You've missed the point by a country mile....and I'M dense.

 

[Eggs]

Live scenes from his medical at FF:

....the inference is that the medical staff didn’t always think he was injured when he said he was.

 

[Thomasc]

Yeah, "Come on Dave, how can you possibly point the finger at the man who hired Koeman and Allardyce? That's not fair Dave, and you know it".

So what? You want rid of Mosh and go back to the glory days of Bill and co because he employed some people who didn’t work out?

There would be no owners of football clubs if you took that actual stance.

Not really thinking this through are you?

 

[davek]

He gave an interest free loan to clear the clubs debts that has held us back for years? This gave the club a fresh start which has been largely squandered by the football people involved in the club, not by him personally. Moshiri's net worth is 1.2 billion whereas city have spend 1 billion in 10 years to get where they are - where was it projected that Moshiri would spend everything he had to get just challenging for the title?
I believe a more realistic promise was that Everton would be given a chance to compete on an even footing e.g. actually being able to utilise the TV revenue and player sales to improve the squad and compete for transfers rather than service debt and break even. This has been sqaundered by mismanagement by the football side of the business and we are again hampered financially by a huge wage bill. Whilst the buck ultimately stops with Moshiri he isn't personally responsible for this and has taken steps to correct it by bringing in a different set of football people. You are correct we are not financed by oil money like Chelsea or City but surely everyone knew this at the start considering Moshiri's net worth? Beating him with the fact that he's only worth 1.2billion when he gave us a fresh start after years of scraping by isn't fair, particularly as even after messing things up again we are not in anywhere near as bad shape as the dark days that preceded this period, and Moshiri is clearly trying to get us back on track.

He's bought debt that increases his control and that will be paid back to him or converted into shares. The sales of players and increased tv revenues provided the means on spend on fes and wages.

I honestly dont know how people allow themselves to identify with Moshiri...he's clearly self serving.

 

[davek]

Pretty sure John Moores was a man of means - the financial landscape was very different in those days of course but his ownership of the club was game-changing in the 60s.
Anyhow the bad news, for you, is that our treasure trove was not some irreplaceable family heirloom that is now lost forever - it was basically one astute Moyesian signing of a young player from a lower league club (Stones), plus one sensible loan and signing of an obviously class player who couldn't get a game for an elite club (Lukaku). Hardly a unique set of events never to be repeated.
The third valuable player (Barkley) we lost was basically the rolex you discover at a car boot sale for 10 quid, for a time think it's worth a million, but ultimately recognise it was a bolex that's worth ten pence.

They were players that come along in that number and as valuable as they were that comes along together every couple of generations...totally wasted by Moshiri.

 

[Tel001]

It hinders more clubs than those who can thrive or cope with it.

The bottom line is that we dont have (and never have had) an owner of means.

Our self generated treasure trove is gone. The club now has to pay for the idiocy of the owner and his appointments.

Never had an owner of means? Wernt we the merseyside millionaires?

 

[mkrudden]

Question is

Does Marco, whether through choice or otherwise, go with Cenk, DCL and Richarlison as forwards

Or

Will someone come in now Niasse has gone

I think it'll be the former. If we lose another forward then perhaps we'll see a signing.

 

[ijjysmith]

Whatever way you care to square it with yourself that's down to you. OBJECTIVELY though this is Everton hunkering down.

You'll be told it's down to becoming a leaner more competitive team - and that the stadium is also a consideration, saving for that.

Heard it ll before. It's the same old con perpetrated by the same type of conmen. If you care to eat the shovel full of BS they heap upon you, be my guest.

I think you should take a banner to the match D.

You seem very upset.

 

[Tel001]

So what? You want rid of Mosh and go back to the glory days of Bill and co because he employed some people who didn’t work out?

There would be no owners of football clubs if you took that actual stance.

Not really thinking this through are you?

Look at the list of managers spurs went through before they got it right , Ramos , AVB , Jol etc and they spend big for years. They got lucky with bale and now with Kane but levy hired and fired some bad managers

 

[vinvinvin]

He's bought debt that increases his control and that will be paid back to him or converted into shares. The sales of players and increased tv revenues provided the means on spend on fes and wages.

I honestly dont know how people allow themselves to identify with Moshiri...he's clearly self serving.

Which Premier League owners aren't self serving? Of course there is no such thing as a free lunch, it is in his interests that the club does well either way. It's been stated that he wants to turn Everton into the Atletico Madrid of the Premier League. There is a degree of compromise in this compared to the ambitions of City for example, and clearly there are benefits to Moshiri if he can get Everton competing at the top with a self sustaining business model - but if he does manage that what exactly would we be complaining about?

 

[Frang]

The issue here isn't whether the austerity policy now being undertaken is right or wrong; my point is that we are here because of the actions of one man: Moshiri. And we could never have taken the folly of his idiocy and carried on spending because he was NEVER THE MAN OF SUBSTANCE HE WAS PROJECTED AS.

Brands is here to wield the axe. Make no mistake of that.

since his arrival the club has been in total chaos.

 

[Jayhow15]

Desperately hope we can flush some of our garbage down the toilet in this window.

Not sure the council approves of that.

 

[tirion]

I think you should take a banner to the match D.

You seem very upset.

He doesn't even go the match

 

[Yarrgh]

since his arrival the club has been in total chaos.

Out of chaos comes order...